My grandfather George Lahey

[MaryA]

Can you tell us the exact details from the birth certificate as I've never known a father's birthplace be noted before.

From my original post I am still interested in the details from this birth certificate

Do you have details from his marriage certificate?

The details required from the marriage certificate are from the correct George, ie the one who you know belongs to you as he is your relative.

[alfredc1]

Mary, I have no birth certificate for George Lahey, born 1866 (or 1867). Not do I have a marriage certificate for his second marriage to Zola Johns. All I have is what he told the US Census at various points, and he did not always give the same information. I don't know why he varied it. If my mother had lived beyond my second birthday, no doubt she would have told me the entire story. As she did not, I am trying to reconstruct it on my own.

[MaryA]

A few years ago in London I got a birth certificate for my grandfather George Lahey, born in Liverpool in 1877. His parents were listed as Martin Lahey, born in Greece, and Isabel Moule

This is the birth certificate I am referring to.

You seem to have missed a step in verifying your research - you need to obtain the marriage certificate of your mother's parents and see what details are given on it.

[dickiesam]

Mary, I have no birth certificate for George Lahey, born 1866 (or 1867). Not do I have a marriage certificate for his second marriage to Zola Johns. All I have is what he told the US Census at various points, and he did not always give the same information. I don't know why he varied it. If my mother had lived beyond my second birthday, no doubt she would have told me the entire story. As she did not, I am trying to reconstruct it on my own.

The absence of this particular Lahey family from any England/Wales census and the apparent absence of some of the Lahey children from the GRO Birth Index suggests that they were in fact not born in England. From that 1885 Florida Census family list that Bert found which included children born in England I could only find one possible match in the GRO Birth Index...
ALICE LAHEY
Birth year/qtr: 1882 / Jun
District: LIVERPOOL; Volume: 8B; Page: 27

It is possible the others may have been born in the US or at sea during an Atlantic crossing.

[dickiesam]

A few years ago in London I got a birth certificate for my grandfather George Lahey, born in Liverpool in 1877. His parents were listed as Martin Lahey, born in Greece, and Isabel Moule

This is the birth certificate I am referring to.

You seem to have missed a step in verifying your research - you need to obtain the marriage certificate of your mother's parents and see what details are given on it.

I believe the born in Greece bit is an assumption taken from a later US Census. I have never seen a GRO birth cert giving the father's place of origin since there is no column for that info to be inserted. And the George Lahey with Martin and Isobel as parents is, thanks to a slip of the pen twixt ear and lip, actually George Leahy.

[MaryA]

I am thinking also it was from the census, which is why I would like confirmation from the birth certificate Alfred claims, however, any of the marriage certificates could help.

[Bertieone]

A marriage certificate always helps, so good advice.

My advice is throw the 1877 birth certificate in the bin

Alfred,
If this is wrong I can dump it, but it something for you to look at and consider. Give or take a year on the dates.

Grace Lahey, Bn 1915, married Alfred D Corn,
Grace's parents,
George Lahey, bn 1866, Zola Johns, bn, 1882, married 1912.
Zola's parents, John D Johns, Mary L Morgan.

Previously to marrying Zola, George was married to Artie Hoothorn, they had a son, John Paul Lahey, bn, 1898, this son is living with his grandparents, 1910 US Fed Census. The grandfather on that census is the John Paul Lahey mentioned as father on George Lahey's death record on LDS.

George and Zola are buried at Sunset Hill Cemetery, hopefully side by side, can you confirm that?

Returning to George's parents and siblings, removing transcription errors from previous posting of records,


John Paul Lahey
Margaret
Sarah Jane, 1862
George, 1866
Louisa, 1872, went through life known as Lula.
Agnes 1881

[alfredc1]

Bertie what you post seems fully accurate. You have unusually good research skills.

The connection to Greece remains unsolved. Nor do I know why the Laheys varied the information they gave. I doubt I will ever know. You can't do genealogy unless you can live with unanswered questions.

[MaryA]

You can't do genealogy unless you can live with unanswered questions.

As it would seem we must as ours are not answered.