John Mitchell please help me find his death!! Liverpool

[lynne99]

I can't remember if I have put this on before. I am trying to find the burial place/ funeral service for 2 of my ancestors both called John Mitchell, both died in 1921. I have death certs for both of them.
1 My grand father John Mitchell b 1881 died 7 March 1921 (reg Liverpool)
2. His son John Verdun Mitchell b 1916 died 8 Dec 1921, having been run over by a car, he died of head injuries.
I hoped that a car accident would be so rare in 1921 that it might have made the papers. I have been unable to find any trace of this. I think there was an inqest, but haven't been able to find this either.
Whilst on this , I know my grand father's father was William Mitchell b 1845 and his father was also John b c 1811 in Ireland or Scotland acording to 1841 census. I can't read the mark. Any help on any of these would be very much appreciated
Thanks Lynne

[MaryA]

Just for clarity, have you actually visited the Record Office to research the above, as the dates in question won't be online in the newspapers.

Perhaps you could also give the references from the 1841 census you mention so that we can also have a look and give an opinion.

[dickiesam]

Hello Lynne,
Do you know what religion the family followed back then? If not, there's a possibility that the marriage cert for John Mitchell b 1881 would tell you.

[lynne99]

Thanks for help. The family were Church of England.
I have not been to the record office but have both death certs. I have tried to find a burial on line with no luck. I had hoped if someone was going to the records office they might have a look for me as I know the dates of both deaths.
Regarding earlier Mitchells
John Mitchell b c 1811
1841 census
Mitchell John 30 - Gardner - South Hill Pb, Toxteth Park, Lancashire HO107/0567/10/~F29 CD35 H_567-3.pdf p.169
Mitchell Esther 22 - Yes South Hill Pb, Toxteth Park, Lancashire
Mitchell Alexander 12 M - Yes South Hill Pb, Toxteth Park, Lancashire

1851 census
Her husband is not on 1851 census presumed dead. As youngest child is 5 this must be after 1845. Have tried to get cert fron GRO but none have the wife as Esther or equivalent, nor the correct address, nor occupation gardener.

1851 census St Silas ward Pembroke Place est 1840 She was a widow
Mitchell Esther 32 Head Laundress Allerton, Lancashire 55 Ashton Street, Liverpool, Lancashire HO107/2183/~F113 CD4 HO2183_1.pdf p.217
Mitchell Alexander 11 Son Son Allerton, Lancashire 55 Ashton Street, Liverpool, Lancashire
Mitchell John 9 Son Son West Derby, Lancashire 55 Ashton Street, Liverpool, Lancashire
Mitchell William 6 Son Son West Derby, Lancashire 55 Ashton Street, Liverpool, Lancashire.

If any one can find these I would be VERY grateful
Mitchell James 5 Son Son West Derby, Lancashire 55 Ashton Street, Liverpool, Lancashire

[Hilary]

To save duplication of effort there is a similar request on Roots Chat at the moment.

[MaryA]

Request made here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.ph ... 584.0.html

[lynne99]

Sorry, but I thought different forums would reach different people.

[dickiesam]

This is the 1841 census summary page reference for John Mitchell bn abt 1811:
HO107 - Piece: 567 - Book/Folio: 10A/29 - Page: 10

Because there appear to be faded entries in both the right-hand columns I would agree he was probably born in either Scotland or Ireland. But can't see enough of the entry to decide whether an S or an I.

[lynne99]

Thanks Dickie sam guess I'll never know

[lynne99]

Anx has a burial in Childwall for a John Mitchell b c 1811 and died Dec 1845. I have looked at the record and abode was Allerton, which links. I have sent for the death certificate and will hold my breath and keep my fingers crossed. Will get back to you when it does. How exciting
I have also found burials of the 2 younger John Mitchells, who are buried in Anfield, 1921. Thank you

[MaryA]

Oh well done! do let us know the outcome.

[lynne99]

Received the certificate from GRO (1 week they are quick these days). It is the correct John Mitchell b 1811. It has brought up some questions.
The informant was the coroner from Prescot. He died from tetanus (7 days) caused from a wound on the first joint of the left thumb after falling on broken stones. He was a gardener.
Can I find out anything about the Prescot coroner and was there an inquest? He died in Allerton but no address given.
Date of death30 Nov 1845. Registered 5 Dec 1845. Any further help much appreciated. I am putting this on other forums as well because of following up the original enquiry.

[MaryA]

I am putting this on other forums as well because of following up the original enquiry.

Perhaps you could put a link to the other forum so that we don't duplicate any research.

[lynne99]

Link to Bootle History (which it isn't really , is it?)
http://www.bootlehistory.co.uk/forum/vi ... 01#p378501

I also put it on roots chat and 1 other but they don't do much research, but I thought I ought to tell them I'd found the deaths.
Thanks for your help Lynne

[lynne99]

Another update. The parish of All Saints Chidwall has very kindly sent me a photo of John (b 1811) Mitchell's grave. It states he is a native of BANFFSHIRE, Scotland. That solves another query from the 1841 census.

[MaryA]

A great result. So far as the inquest is concerned, I've checked the available online newspapers but I don't know if you would need to check a more local one to Prescot. Difficult as many were not yet available in 1845.

A list of holdings at various libraries is here http://forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk ... ry#p101495