Looking for Lunts

[Barbara B]

Harriet Lunt married Henry Peers at Toxteth Park St Michaels in 1863. Her father is given as Charles Lunt, mariner. I have the baptism of Georgina Harriet Lunt in 1828 at St Peters, father Charles, mariner and mother Ann.
Harriet is a servant in 1851.
I can't find any trace of her parents although I appreciate Charles may be away at sea.
There is a Harrietta Lunt in 1841 with Richard and Ann Lunt but this couple are, I think too young to be her parents. Could she be a niece staying with them whilst Charles is at sea?
Any thoughts anyone?
Thanks in advance
Barbara

[MaryA]

To assist, the 1841 census - Cellar 20, Harper Street, Toxteth Park
Richard Lunt 25 Labourer Yes
Ann Lunt 30 Yes
Harriette 12 Yes
HO107; Piece: 568; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Toxteth Park; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 46; Folio: 52; Page: 13

[Tina]

Hi there is a Harriet Peers 72 bn Lpool in 1901 census with hubby Henry 70 bn Higher Bebington dock labr
son George 35 bn Lpool dock labr.
In the courts in Chesterfield St Tox Park.
1871 Hy is there bn Bebington but his wife is Georginia H, George is 7.
other kiddies they are in courts in Uppr Harrington St Tox Park.
1881 she is listed as Gaina H with Hy and George and other kiddies.
Have you followed through with Richard and Ann from 1841 census?

[Barbara B]

Hi Tina
That's the right family. She seems to alternate between names.
I have had a sighting of Richard and Ann later on with a daughter Harriet but need to follow that up. I can't find anything on Charles but suspect it's because of his profession.
Thanks for the input both you and Mary.
Barbara

[MaryA]

I have had a sighting of Richard and Ann later on with a daughter Harriet

Would this be the family in Birmingham? I have done a little work on them and know that Richard Lunt married Ann Needham in St Bride, Liverpool, and they had a number of children, apparently only Elisa (1839) and Harriet (1843) being born in Liverpool, the rest in Birmingham.

I can't quite convince myself that this is the same couple, too many conflicts, 1841 census for YOUR Harriet stating that Richard and Ann were both born in Lancashire, your Harriet was obviously born prior to that census, although of course it is possible that they named one of their children after perhaps a niece? and the ages are totally out.

I could be persuaded to be corrected.

[Tina]

1891 census
Hy 61 dock labr bn Storeton Ches, Harriet 63, George H 27 dock labr, Wm 17 dock labr,
George Peers 59, cotton porter bn Storeton Ches (Higher Bebington)

[dickiesam]

There is a Harrietta Lunt in 1841 with Richard and Ann Lunt but this couple are, I think too young to be her parents. Any thoughts anyone?
Thanks in advance
Barbara

Don't forget that in the 1841 ages of anyone over 15 was to be rounded down to the nearest 0 or 5. So Ann the mother could be up to 34 and spouse Richard up to 29.

[Barbara B]

I echo your thoughts Mary, I don't think Richard and Ann are the parents.
DS, I take your point but it still leaves me with Harriet's father shown as Charles on both her baptism and marriage.
I have a fair bit of info on the Peers' but Georgina Harriet's past is much more hazy. Ah well as someone here once famously said 'onwards and backwards!
Thanks for the help
Barbara

[dickiesam]

Is this the same Richard as in 1841, perhaps a brother to Charles?

1851: HO107 Piece: 2192 Folio: 889 Page: 33
Address: Deys Lane, West Derby, Lancashire
LUNT, Richard Head 70 1781 Late Joiner - Wavertree, Lancashire
LUNT, Hannah Wife 68 1783 Late Joiner's Wife - West Derby, Lancashire
LUNT, Richard Son U/m 37 1814 Shoe Maker Journeyman - West Derby, Lancashire
LUNT, Margaret Dtr U/m 45 1806 House Servant - West Derby, Lancashire
FORSHAW, Peter Visitor U/m 19 1832 Watch Maker's Apprentice - Liverpool, Lancashire
ROUGHLEY, Alice Servant U/m 17 1834 House Servant - Windle, Lancashire

[MaryA]

Is this the same Richard as in 1841, perhaps a brother to Charles?

NOPE !!! Thems mine! and Dickie didn't have a brother Charlie

PS They were in Croxteth Hall Lane in 1841, including son Richard.

[Barbara B]

Hope you won't come to blows!
I've trawled through what seems like hundreds of Lunts with no luck so far. He'll turn up one of these days.
Cheers
Barbara

[dickiesam]

Is this the same Richard as in 1841, perhaps a brother to Charles?

NOPE !!! Thems mine! and Dickie didn't have a brother Charlie

PS They were in Croxteth Hall Lane in 1841, including son Richard.

OK! Only asking!

If Charlie was a mariner could this be him?
Sparse details found in BT Register of Ticket Numbers.
Last name: Lunt
First names: Chas
Place of birth: Maghill [could be Maghull?]
Ticket #: 565026
Series: BT114; Date range: 1845-1854; Piece number: 13

[MaryA]

OK! Only asking!

Last name: Lunt
First names: Chas
Place of birth: Maghill [could be Maghull?]
Ticket #: 565026
Series: BT114; Date range: 1845-1854; Piece number: 13

That could be a very good clue, there are numerous Lunts in the Sefton area.

I have copies of transcripts of Parish Register entries in St Helens church, Sefton which somebody was very good in getting me, but just to confirm that I find no baptism entry for a Harriet, nor a marriage for a Charles in this church.

[Barbara B]

Well done Sherlock DS! I bet that's him.
Mary, I found Harriet baptised in 1828 as Georgina Harriet and father Charles in Liverpool St Peter's. Have looked in IGI and OLPC for anything on Charles but no luck. There were some baptisms but without any other info it's just guesswork. I think I'll check back and see if there's an entry for Maghull.
Barbara

[Barbara B]

Curses! There are two Charles Lunts baptised in Maghull but one of them is in1744 and the other is 1816. Given that Georgina Harriet was born in in 1828 that rules out both of them. Flippin' 'eck

[MaryA]

Well the younger is in Ormskirk Row, Liverpool Road? Lydiate occupation Stoker in Gas Works Liverpool, in 1851 with wife Margaret, 39 born Maghull parish of Halsall and children Elizabeth 8, Thomas 7, Jane 5, Charles 3 and George 3 months born Lydiate, other children born Liverpool. HO107; Piece: 2196; Folio: 158; Page: 18

and back in Liverpool in 1861, 112 Tatlock Street he's a dock labourer, same children with the addition of James 6.

[dickiesam]

From Familysearch....

Charles Lunt
Christening Date: 05 Sep 1791
Christening Place: St. Peter's, Formby, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Charles Lunt
Mother's Name: Mary

Charles Lunt
Christening Date: 28 Jul 1799
Christening Place: SAINT PETER, LIVERPOOL
Birth Date: 08 Jul 1799
Father's Name: George Lunt
Mother's Name: Catharine

Charles Lunt
Christening Date: 20 Jun 1790
Christening Place: ST NICHOLAS, LIVERPOOL
Birth Date: 15 May 1790
Father's Name: Robert Lunt
Mother's Name: Ann

[Barbara B]

We can rule out the younger then.
All the others are possibles but without anything concrete it's all just conjecture. Heigh ho! Wouldn't it be great if there was a Harriet or Georgina amongst the parents?

[dickiesam]

Wouldn't it be great if there was a Harriet or Georgina amongst the parents?

There's a George father. Was Georgina supposed to be a boy? I was Pauline until they turned me over to have a look in Oxford Street!

[Bertieone]

The 1790 baptism, Robert the father, Pilot,
Like father like son, the sea was in the blood