Thomas Barrow born 1822

[hatton65]

I have been looking for almost a year now and I cannot find where Thomas Barrow born 1822 Widnes was christened and who is parents were.

He got married to Harriet Heyes my 2nd great grandmother on 29th October 1843. his father was James Barrow on the certificate and he was a watchmaker (occupation fits in well). the witness were Thomas Heyes and Hannah Barrow ( I also want to know who Hannah Barrow was as well).

I have found him in all of the census from 1851 1901, then he died in 1905.

Harriet his wife died in 1873 and in 1884 he married Ellen Green. ( Ellen I think was originally Ellen Heyes so I think she may have been a cousin of Harriets). I found the marriage to Ellen online (st Wilfrid) but it says his father was David Barrow not James as I thought it was. The witness on this marriage were Martha and Joshia Sparks, they were Thomas's Daughter and Son in Law.

Can anyone shed any light on this for me please?

Thanks Andrea

[MaryA]

Have you looked at this one? Have you found this family in later censuses to rule them out?

Baptism: 16 Oct 1825 St Wilfrid, Farnworth near Prescot, Lancashire, England
Thomas Burrows - Son of James Burrows & Martha
Abode: Tarbuck
Occupation: Husbandman
Baptised by: Thos. Todhunter - curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1828, Page 165, Entry 1319
Source: LDS Film 1655234 item 4

I suspect this would be the marriage of the parents
Marriage: 17 Feb 1817 St Wilfrid, Farnworth near Prescot, Lancashire, England
James Borrows - (X), Husbandman, of this Parish
Martha Rose - (X), Spinster, of this Parish
Witness: Peter Wolton; Margaret Rose, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Wardell
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1824, Page 66, Entry 197
Source: LDS Film 166235 item 5

[MaryA]

Another thought - has an error been made on the marriage certificate? Do you have the original or just a transcript?

Noticing that he married in Prescot
Marriage: 29 Oct 1843 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Thomas Barrow - (X), Full age, Watch Maker, Bachelor, Ditton
Harriet Heyes - (X), Full age, Spinster, Ditton
Groom's Father: James Barrow, Watch Maker
Bride's Father: John Heyes, Cooper
Witness: Thomas Heyes, (X); Hannah Barrow, (X)
Married by Banns by: C. G. T. Driffield Vicar
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1845, Page 172, Entry 344
Source: LDS Film 1657584

I do wonder about this family I found in the 1841 census, location being right and also a Hannah in the family.

Township of Ditton, Farnworth, Prescot
All born in County
David Barrow 40 Watchmaker J
Alice 40
David 20 Watchmaker J
Thomas 15
Hannah 15
Ellen 15
Robert 10
Eliza 2 months?
HO107; Piece: 516; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Prescot; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 8; Page: 11; Line: 1

Son David was baptised in St Mary, Hale, abode noted as Speke, where his mother was born, the other children were baptised at St Wilfred's Farnworth except for Thomas who sadly isn't listed.

[MaryA]

On the next census page after the Barrow family found above, in Liverpool Road, is a Heyes family, with daughter Harriet and father John, although he is an Ag Lab but occupations do change..... or brides do fib.

[hatton65]

Hi Mary thanks for looking, I am beginning to think that David is Thomas' father and I have been doing some research too. In the 1841 census most of the ages of the children are wrong, David shld be abt 22 not 20, Thomas shld be 20 not 15 and Hannah shld be 17 not 15. Maybe the family were illiterate and didn't know how old they were at the time???
Even the parents ages are not correct according to later census. It does say James is the father on the on the marriage certificate but who know's maybe they didn't know the fathers name at the time too??? Everything is all tying in with the family from Ditton and yes I did notice they lived in the same road as Harriet his future wife. And Hannah was a witness, it's all too much of a coincidence and that is why I think it is the correct family.

Unless someone else can me other information, I am presuming I have found Thomas's parents

Thanks Andre

[alex69]

remember that ages were rounded down to nearest 5 in the 1841 Census.
Thus
David 22=20
Thomas 19=15
Hannah 17=15

Alex

[hatton65]

Thanks for pointing that out Alex, it did confuse me a lot as I had forgotten that.

Thanks Andrea

[alex69]

THOMAS Barrow christened 4 November 1821 Farnworth nr Prescot son of DAVID and ALICE - per Familysearch. IGI batch number C00573-3

On Lancashire OPC it is mistranscribed as BARRON.

Alex

[MaryA]

THOMAS Barrow christened 4 November 1821 Farnworth nr Prescot son of DAVID and ALICE - per Familysearch. IGI batch number C00573-3

Good it puzzled me that he was missing.