John Willcox born about 1777 - Gloucestershire. My 4th GGF

[BillWH]

Hello

Trying to find the parents of our 4th GGF whose family come from either Gloucestershire or Somerset areas of the UK.

John Willcox was born about 1777 and have no date of death. He was married to Hester Shill at St James Parish Church in Bristol on 2 February 1802.

Hesther was born : 16 Oct 1779 in Thornbury, Avon, Gloucestershire

Hesther died: 19 May 1806 in Almondsbury, Gloucestershire, England

Hester Parents: Father: Issac Shill and Mother: Martha Knott

The Willcox line in our tree comes from the Gloucestershire areas of Almondsbury/Thornbury/Bristol/ and moved up to West Derby in Liverpool via Sydney Benjamin Willcox, his father was Benjamin Willcox of Bristol, a ships captain who died 1873 on the voyage to the Gold Coast in Africa and was buried there.

As this is our direct family line we would like to of course tie off this loose end and any help is appreciated

Best Wishes

Bill Willcox

[MaryA]

Can you tell us the approximate date they arrived in Liverpool.

When you say West Derby, do you mean the area of West Derby, Lancashire, or is it the registration district that you have from a BMD entry?

Although the crew try their best out of the Lancashire area, sometimes through lack of resources in an area such as Gloucestershire/Somerset, we might suggest that you try a forum such as www.rootschat.com which has a separate board for each county and people who specialise in them might see your post and have a resource that might be able to help.

If you do decide to take up this suggestion, please post a cross reference on here so that we can save any duplication of research.

[dickiesam]

Hi and welcome..
You may have all this? Haven't looked 'down south' yet but just trawling the Liverpool area found this death....

Death: WILLCOX, Sidney Benjamin
Registration district: West Derby
Year of registration: 1891; Sep qtr
Age at death: 0
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 346

Then the birth:
Birth: WILCOX, Sidney Benjamin
Registration district: West Derby
Year of registration: 1890; Dec qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 466

Then found the baptism on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Baptism: 1 Jan 1891 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
Sidney Benjamin Wilcock - [Child] of Sidney Benjamin Wilcock & Sarah Jane
Born: 12 Nov
Abode: 10 Laburnam Grove
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: R. F. G. Smithwick
Register: Baptisms 1886 - 1892, Page 78, Entry 621
Source: LDS Film 1546065

Then the 1891 census:
RG12 Piece: 2984 Folio: 109 Page: 42
Address: 10 Laburnam Grove, Litherland, Lancashire
WILCOX, Sydney Boarder 19 1872 Ship's scaler Liverpool, Lancashire
WILCOX, Sarah Boarder 18 1873 Liverpool, Lancashire
WILCOX, Sydney Boarder 0 (8M) 1891 Seaforth, Lancashire

I see that Sidney the father was born in Liverpool... This is probably him....
Birth: WILLCOX, Sidney Benjamin
Registration district: West Derby
Year of registration: 1871; Mar qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 565.

And he married...
WILLCOX, Sidney married SIMPSON, Sarah Jane
Registration district: Liverpool
Year of registration: 1890; Mar qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 71

The Wilcox family in 1871:
RG10 Piece: 3853 Folio: 103 Page: 16
Address: 6 Argyle Road, Garston, Lancashire
WILCOX, Benj'n Head 32 1839 Sea Captain Bristol, Gloucestershire
WILCOX, Amelia D Wife 22 1849 Liverpool, Lancashire
WILCOX, Sidney B Son 0 1871 Garston, Lancashire
PILKINGTON, Elizabeth Mother-In-Law Widow 51 1820 Lancashire
LYONS, Alice Cousin 15 1856 Lancashire

WILCOX, Benjamin married PILKINGTON, Amelia Dorothy
Registration district: Liverpool
Year of registration: 1870; Mar qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 259

[dickiesam]

Family in 1841?
HO107 Piece: 361 Book/Folio: 6 Page: 12
Address: Almondsbury, Gloucestershire
WILCOX, John M 40 1801 Farmer Gloucestershire
WILCOX, Mary F 30 1811 Gloucestershire
WILCOX, John M 3 1838 Gloucestershire
WILCOX, Benj'n M 1 1840 Gloucestershire

[MaryA]

The 1870 marriage took place in St Philips, Liverpool
17 February, 1870 by Banns
Benjamin Wilcox 30 Bachelor Master Mariner 27 Mount Pleasant
Father John Wilcox, Farmer
Amelia Dorothy Pilkington 21 Spinster, same address
Father Frances Pilkington, Stevedore
Witnesses A W Leighton and Emily Bryan
It looks like they all signed, but Benjamin spelled his name Willcox

It would seem to confirm your 1841 finding DS

[BillWH]

Hello

Thank you all who have posted the above information and taken their time to research. We have all the information listed above and it is only from John and Hester , mainly John Willcox 1777 as have all of Hesters informations and most of her family line. I just do not want to waste peoples time and thought I'd let you know so as not to waste your efforts.

Thank you deeply for the speed and professionalism of those members who posted information

Bill Willcox

[dickiesam]

Hello Bill,
I though you might have the info I posted, but you didn't say you already had the 'Liverpool' line tied off all neat and tidy.

I think your best route is to follow MaryA's suggestion....

Although the crew try their best out of the Lancashire area, sometimes through lack of resources in an area such as Gloucestershire/Somerset, we might suggest that you try a forum such as www.rootschat.com which has a separate board for each county and people who specialise in them might see your post and have a resource that might be able to help.

If you do decide to take up this suggestion, please post a cross reference on here so that we can save any duplication of research.

Good luck,

[dickiesam]

A shot in the dark....?

From FamilySearch:
Name: John Wilcox
Christening Date: 14 Aug 1776
Christening Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father's Name: John Wilcox
Mother's Name: Hester
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C17097-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1565938 IT 3-13

[BillWH]

Hello Dickiesam

Thank you so much for your efforts and my apologies for not mentioning i'd tied off the loose ends you mentioned. Thank you also for the latest information you posted and it may be of use.

I've actually just found out my sister in law Lyn Willcox posted in this forum quite some time back and you were good enough , along with other members in assisting her.

Best Wishes

Bill

[MaryA]

Just to cross reference and perhaps save any duplication of research, Lyn's posts are here
http://forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk ... it=willcox
and
http://forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk ... it=willcox

[BillWH]

Thank You MaryA

Bill