Private George Frederick Martin, Kings Liverpool

[Bertieone]

Gilbert Price 241460 his 4 digit number is 3567.

Also Machine Gun Corps, 116646, awarded the DCM, died 1918.

[Katie]

Thanks Bertie

Just done a little bit of cross checking on Gilbert Price born Bromborough KIA 1918

I was unable to locate a birth for a Gilbert Price, however I found a birth registratiom for a Richard Gilbert Bruce Price born 1887 in Bromborough son of Richard Price

This Richard Gilbert Bruce Price was married at St. Michaels in the Hamlet in 1916 and he is recorded as a soldier.

On St, Michaels War Memorial

St.Michael in the Hamlet C.of E. Church Richard Gilbert PRICE Died 1918

St.Barnabas' C.of E. Church, Bromborough Corporal Gilbert PRICE QO Cam Highlanders DCM

He is in my Wounded list published 1917 as R.G. Price 241460

Would you agree that Gilbert Price and Richard Gilbert Bruce Price are the same soldier?

[Bertieone]

Hi Katie,

They appear to be the same chap,
Not sure where the Cameron Highlanders come in to play.

There's been an interest here, I can't see the images, not a member.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forum ... pic=128223

[Swannie]

To Katie and Bert,

I can't begin to express how grateful I am for the help that you have both given me. My father was absolutely over the moon today when I gave him the information that had been discovered regarding his father. I am going to try to obtain any medals which he was awarded, which my father was very emotional about today.

Thank you both again so much, this is such a wonderful forum. I will definitely be continuing my research!

Kind regards

Lisa

[promenade]

Lisa,

You may find the following of interest:-

George Frederick Martin enlisted in Liverpool on Wednesday 9/6/15 in the 6th (Territorial Force) Battalion KLR as No 3566 (early in 1917 he was renumbered to 241459). After a period of training in the UK he crossed to France on 3/3/16 and joined 55 Division Base Depot the following day. He left the base for 1/6 KLR 15/3/16 and was allotted to C Company. On 28/6/16 he was wounded by shrapnel in his left side and was treated at 1/3 West Lancs Field Ambulance (located at Solerneau) being released the same day. However his wound flared up again and he was treated once more at the Field Ambulance between 1-6/7/16. On 17/7/16 he was again treated at 1/3 West Lancs Field Ambulance but this time was subsequently transferred to 43 Casualty Clearing Station on 20/7/16 and then on 8/8/16 to No 9 Canadian General Hospital. He joined No 3 Convalescent Depot 11/8/16 and then on 26/8/16 joined 24 Infantry Base Depot. He was deprived of two day's pay during this period for 'reporting sick without a cause'. He left to rejoin his Battalion on 20/9/16. Attended Trench Mortar Course 30/10/16 to 6/11/16. To Brigade School for Officers as an officer's servant 16/11/16 to 10/12/16. To Transportation Depot 12/5/17. Transferred to 3rd West Lancs Royal Engineers (Territorial Force) with effect from 20/6/17 and posted to 52 Broad Gauge Railway Operating Company with the rank of Sapper and new number 431697 - he was subsequently renumbered WR/176305 [the WR stood for waterways and railways].

It is possible that he was that he was wounded in the trench raid on 28/6/16 (the following is a transcription from the war diary):-

BEAUMETZ
Battalion in Reserve. Finer. Heavy shelling of enemy trenches continued. Detachment under Lt WJ Jones, 2nd Lts Adam, T Phillips and Freestone carried out a very successful raid on enemy trench R.29.D.33.67. The following times were observed.
"ALERT" received at 12.50pm
"ZERO" received at 5pm
In position 4.45pm.
The party left our trenches at 5.35pm after gas and smoke had been released. The party returned to the trenches at 6.25pm (all reported in). When half way across it was observed that the Germans were attempting to bring a Machine Gun into action, the covering party thereupon opened fire, killing the crew. The machine gun was then rushed and captured. Heavy opposition was met with after entering the German trenches, the enemy awaiting the party on the steps of the dug-outs. They were however, effectively dealt with. Twelve or more dug-outs were combed and the Royal Engineers with the party blew in ten of these with gun cotton. A determined German counter attack from the support line on our left was attempted by the enemy but was repulsed principally by our covering party on the German parapet. One dead German was brought in and and one wounded one. The following booty was brought over:-
1 machine gun
1 Trench Mortar with platform.
In addition many rifles, bayonets, bombs, a smoke helmet, Great coat, officer's equipment, boots, pack believed to belong to an NCO and ammunition etc. Also papers torn from German trenches.
Our casualties were
Lt WJ Jones (killed)
2nd Lt T Phillips (wounded)
2nd Lt Freestone (wounded)
2 Other Ranks killed and 22 wounded (4 at duty)
Parties rejoined the Battalion at night. Parties from 5th, 7th and 9th Liverpools carried out similar raids. Casualties amongst smoke bombers were 1 Other Rank killed and 4 Other Ranks wounded.

[Swannie]

Hi Promenade,

Thank you so much for the wealth of information that you have given me regarding my grandfather. I can't wait to relay it to my father, he will be so grateful, as am I. May I ask where you located the information from? I have been searching as many sites as I can, only finding snippets of information, nothing as thorough as what you have provided however! It was so interesting to read and I know my father will be amazed at what you have provided for us. I think I mentioned in my first post, that I have two shell cases which my grandfather 'tapped out' and they are my prized possessions. Sadly, I never got to meet him in person, as he died many years before I was born, but being able to read so much about him is truly amazing! May I also ask, when I apply for his medals, which number would I provide, or would it be best to provide all service numbers?

Thank you again, I am ever so grateful

Kind regards

Lisa

[Katie]

Hi Swannie

Promenade is the owner of the Devereux Database in the Museum of Liverpool which I told you about.

[promenade]

Lisa,

Many thanks for your kind words.

A couple of things. I inadvertently typed in his incorrect No 241460 which I have replaced with 241459. Secondly his medals have already been issued so there is little point in writing to the MOD - see https://www.gov.uk/t...ce-medal-office - they also do not issue replacements. His medals would have been issued off the Royal Engineers medal roll and would have been impressed something like 431697 (or WR/176305) Spr. G. F. Martin R.E. around the rim. Although your chances of finding them are remote if they have left the family (ask around within the family you never know) it may be worth enquiring if any medal collector has them (he qualified for a British War Medal and and Victory Medal) - try the British Medal Forum via the following site:- http://www.britishmedalforum.com/

Regards

Promenade

[Swannie]

Hi Katie and Promenade,

The help which you have given me is so appreciated and I am so looking forward to taking the information to show to my father tomorrow. This forum is a very special place and I can't get over how people are willing to help so much, it is something which is sadly not seen so much nowadays.

My father has always said that he never saw his fathers medals, so assumed that he had never been awarded any or claimed them. There was only himself and his younger sister (whom I will ask), however, during WWII, their house was bombed out and the majority of their things were destroyed. Maybe this is what happened to his medals? I will keep on with the search and will look into the website which you provided Promenade.

Thank you all again and I hope to update you with a picture of his medals at some point, but if not, the information we have received is more than I ever imagined to have

With kind regards

Lisa