John & Hannah Mitchell(nee Pendlebury)

[Wendyem]

I could use some finer minds here please.

In around 1996 I found on IGI fiche several children baptised to Parents John & Hannah MITCHELL at St Peter's Liverpool betweem 1824-1840.(Gt.Gt G'Parents of myself & Gt.G'Parents Harry Thomas Mitchell-
http://forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk ... =2&t=12600)

William Stamper Mitchell bapt'd 1824...Watkinson St. Father-Mariner(my Gt.G'Father who came to Australia)
John James Mitchell bapt'd 1826..... ....Watkinson St. Father- Mariner
Jane Mitchell bapt'd 10 Aug. 1829........Blundell St. Father- Mariner
John Pearce Mitchell bapt'd 7 Dec.1834 ...Bittern St.F.- Shoemaker??????
James Mitchell bapt'd 16th Oct. 1837.... Brick St.Father- Mariner
Thomas Pendlebury Mitchell b.1839 Bapt'd 6th Jan 1840... Brick St.Father-Mariner.
I had thought John Pearce to be named for an earlier John James who had died. Now knowing the Father's occupation as shoemaker I doubt. Would a 'mariner' take up work as a shoemaker between 1829 & 1837 even due to lack of work, or is this child belonging to another John & Hannah.?
I haven't found him or a John Mitchell-Shoemaker in those early years so far.(1841-1851)
Connection between Harry T's Father, William Mitchell found on Janes page of Missing persons in 'Old Mersey Times' looking for my G.G.Grandie William Stamper in 1899.

1841 census John, Hannah & Thomas together in New Bird st. (spelled Mitchall)

Any assist greatly appreciated.
Wendy
Then I shall present the Pendlebury quiz,, there's fun!!

[Bertieone]

Hi Wendy,

The fact he was a Shoemaker in 1834 doesn't necessarily mean he was in 33 or 35, its just some proof he was at the time of the baptism. Shoe making was a trade, a skill he may have acquired before becoming a Mariner, so possible he had a break from seafaring and then returned to the sea.

[dickiesam]

Hi Wendy,
The plot thickens....
It would appear that there were two couples named John and Hannah Mitchell in 1834...
This from the Community Indexed IGI on FamilySearch:

John Pearce Mitchell [England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975]
christening: 07 Dec 1834 - SAINT PETER, LIVERPOOL
parents: John Mitchell, Hannah

John Harvey Mitchell [England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975]
birth: 15 Sep 1834
christening: 02 Nov 1834 - PITT STREET WESLEYAN CHAPEL, LIVERPOOL.
parents: John Mitchell, Hannah Blinkhorn

[Bertieone]

Hi DS,

It appears that John Mitchell married Hannah Blinkhorn at St Nicholas, Liverpool, 1831, he was born in Scotland and was a Carver & Gilder.

[dickiesam]

Hi DS,

It appears that John Mitchell married Hannah Blinkhorn at St Nicholas, Liverpool, 1831, he was born in Scotland and was a Carver & Gilder.

Hi Bert,
Maybe he made wooden shoes and did a fancy line in gilded sabots...

[Hilary]

When and where did your John and Hannah marry? I presume her maiden name comes from Thomas' birth certificate?

[Bertieone]

John Mitchell, Mariner
Hannah Pendlebury, Widow,
1822 St Peter, Liverpool,

Banns, Anc.

[simone]

Hi

1841 census
HO107; Piece: 558; Book: 4 Folio: 8; Page: 8
Bay Horse Lane
John Mitchell 53 shoemaker
Susannah Mitchell 60 shoemaker
John Mitchell 16

although not quite right age for young John, and parents? a bit old, and no one born in county

[Wendyem]

Thankyou Simone, Bert & DS.
The 1822 marriage is correct but was a late entry into IGI list so I fumbled in the dark for a time & once thought Hannah Blinkhorn must be 'the one'. even though William Stamper named his last son Samuel Pendlebury. Seems to be a name reserved for last sons .
The page in book I saw (on film) of St.Peters for marriage is badly blurred perhaps by closing the book while ink was still wet.
Always wondered where the 'Stamper' & 'Pearce' came from & figured they were old shipmates or similar..hadn't found such in an early Mitchell marriage as in Paternal Mother. Just guessing John snr. had Parents. Not found/proven.
I'm not quite prepared to buy death certs for a possible John,- of which their are 5 between Sept. 1837 & Mar.1841 -in the hope of finding the correct John. Same for his Father John. I rather think he died in 1843 but only a guess.
In all marriage & death certs I have John senior is a Mariner except in Hannahs when he is a 'Seaman' so I guess the 'mariner' meant more than close shore work.
It's possible that a John (shoe-maker) & Hannah moved to another county but I haven't seen that yet either.
Judging by their changes of address, perhaps due to finances or Family increase, my John may have taken up shoe-making, to earn a living or perhaps worked with the trade onboard ship?
I guess I was hoping to find a former neighbour who could tell me all my little heart desired I'll keep John Pearce in family until proven otherwise, which I guess makes him a permanent.

Thanks folks for you input.
Wendy

Is this a reasonable spot to introduce Hannahs guesstimated beginnings, or should I indulge in a new post? I'd hate for anyone to be idle.

[MaryA]

Wondered about checking for burials but sorry no luck in Gibsons Epitaphs.

[Wendyem]

Thank you Mary,
I believe this Family probably had little or no money to buy graves/tombstones/ etc. Only the first & last born children seem to have survived,.. anyone not knowing that William Stamper Mitchell had marinered his way to Australia in 1850, would think that Thomas P. was the only survivor.
Williams last hospital records say he arrived in the colonies 1850 on the 'Pakenham'. If a ship,- it did indeed arrive here in 1849 /50. However he was said to be the barge master on the 'Pakenham', a river-barge of the 'Lady Augusta' with Captain Cadell from Scotland who was later to have a River boat race upriver with Captain Randell & his Steamer the Mary-Ann.

By now I'm content that I'll never know the truth of that unless I can find some-one in the local F.History society of which I am now not a member, to check it out for me. Not fussed. I know he was here & now is not.

Wendy

[Tina]

I'm sure you have this Wendy
Death William Stamper Mitchell bn 1825c
1900 Adelaide South Australia
Residence place Goolwa (a river port about 100k's south of Adelaide)
Marriage 10/1/1889 Wm 52 widow father John, to Elizabeth Smith 30 widow her father Thomas Bishop.
R/O Port Elliot Encounter Bay S.A