Immigration Visa Number

[Bertieone]

Hi all,

Does anyone have any experience tracking someone using their Immigration Visa Number? issued Washington, USA, 1928, if so, any pointers please,

Thank you.

[dickiesam]

Hi Bert,
I have never used the Immigration Visa Number to find someone but the date of issue should provide a rough guide as to when they arrived in the US. If you found that it might tell you where they were going. If they stayed and remained 'respectable citizens' they would eventually qualify for citizenship and a Social Security Number. I believe there are citizenship applications and grants thereof on Ancestry. And there is the census as well of course.

[Bertieone]

Thanks, DS,

Unfortunately there is nothing in the Citizen and Naturalization collection that I could draw any conclusions, similar, 1940 Federal census, I possibly have her but again, not certain. I definitely have her coming back to Liverpool in 1930. The address she was heading for, Katie kindly found who the occupants were for me and they were her sister's children, happy with that.
The 1928 find is probably her first going to the states, I'm hoping a record exists of a correspondence address via the Visa Number.
When she came back in 1930, it was only for a visit, according to my Uncle, now deceased, she stayed in New York.
Wondering now where can I look?

[dickiesam]

Bert,
Just a thought... did she marry when she came home in 1930 or perhaps after going back to the US?

[Bertieone]

Hi DS,

I have no knowledge of her marrying and I have to believe she didn't, the information I received from my uncle was in her maiden name, were as all the other girls I got their married name.
Initially because she became parentless by the age of 13 ish in 1908 I thought she might have been in a home and became one of the Home Children, now I'm not so sure. I'll have to re check my records, can't recall if I have her in 1911.

[Bertieone]

To Add,

Have a note of a Rachel Williams leaving Liverpool, September 1908 on board the Tunisian bound for Quebec aged 12, sent by the Catholic Emigration Association.

Perhaps she did and came back and then went to the States,

More digging me thinks

[northmeols]

http://www.health.ny.gov/vital_records/

http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/to ... llections/

[Bertieone]

Thanks for the links, Susan

[dickiesam]

There are two entries for a Rachael Williams travelling on the Tunisian in 1908.

1) Name: Rachel WILLIAMS
Date of departure: 16 September 1908
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada
Marital status: Single
Passenger recorded on Page 3 of manifest.
There are many other children with her on the manifest.

2) Name: Rachel WILLIAMS
Date of departure: 14 October 1908
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Spinst
Passenger recorded on Page 1 of manifest.
She is with a group of immigrant workers, obviously not 'children'.

[Bertieone]

Thanks DS,

Number (2) I have sight of the Canadian arrival, 24 Oct 1908, Tunisian, must be the same voyage, though they were sent by the Catholic Assoc. Her age on that voyage fits in more or less with her birth, 30 March 1893.

I can't find her in 1911, her 2 sisters, Ruth and Ellen Williams were in St Anne's Industrial School, West Lane, Formby.
RG 14 Piece 22866 Page 3,
Does anybody know if the occupants of that school in 1908 are available to view and where please?

Their brother William, you may recall, DS, you found him here,
Williams, RG14, Piece22552 Page2

On that occasion I awarded you the Iron Cross with Oak Leaf Cluster
Has anyone got sight of that census sheet with the white stripe in the correct place?

[Katie]

If she was sent to Canada as a Home Child there may be a record in the Workhouse. To gain access to America she would have had to go through Niagra Falls. my great uncle did this. Liverpool Record office have a index of what records that are available for Catholic Home Children.

Is she recorded on Ellis Island?

[dickiesam]

Has anyone got sight of that census sheet with the white stripe in the correct place?

I see no stripes at all.

[Bertieone]

Katie,
Had no luck with Ellis Island, I will look in to what's available at the records office,
Would a list of occupants be available for 1908 for St Anne's school? I could see if the 3 sisters were placed in there together.


DS,

On Anc the white stripe is still in place, it covers the first column and first names, there are 2 Williams next to each other, the first one I can make out "am" of the forename, I assume that's William, can you please confirm, also the other Williams first name.

Thank you both.

[Bertieone]

Thanks DS,

Email sent.

[dickiesam]

Bert,
Just found this based on a birth year of 1893 and pre-1911.

Passenger: Rachel WILLIAMS
Date of departure: 24 May 1909
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Halifax, Canada
Passenger destination: Halifax, Canada
Passenger recorded on Page 4 of manifest.
Ship: CARTHAGINIAN

She is obviously with a large group of other children, I counted 139, which includes Albert E WILLIAMS [Page 3]; Doreen WILLIAMS [Page 4]; Fred WILLIAMS [Page 3; Leonard WILLIAMS [Page 2]. They are in the care of two adults, a Miss E(?) Hidt and a Mrs Fawcock.

[Bertieone]

Cheers DS,

The other Williams children are not my Rachel's siblings. The departure date would be shortly after her mothers death and Rachel would have been at a perfect age for shipping out, so a possible, but like many of these records, she could belong to anyone. There's so many Rachel's who are all possibles, I think I need to find another way.