431 smithdown road in 1896

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garstonite
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431 smithdown road in 1896

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Good morning ....is there anyone who can find out the owner or business of 431 Smithdown Road in 1896 please ?...is there a directory that will name them ??....I know it was a shop with 2 floors above it for living accomodation ...would like to know who a particular Domestic Servant worked for ...she had a baby at that address mid july 1896 - fathers name is left blank .....
I am wondering if her employer was romantically involved ??
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allan

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Hi Allan,
If you are trying to put a name in that blank space on a birth cert where a father's name should be.....

The following is by courtesy of Hilary, Education Officer of our LSWLFH Society and will be of interest:

It is extremely unlikely that the name of an illegitimate child's father can be found. Unless.....

1. There is a clue in the child's name such as a surname as the middle name. But this is supposition not evidence.

2. A father is named at the child's baptism. This is more likely in areas where all the parishioners were known to the priest or vicar.

3. A Bastardity Bond was applied for and the father is named. Records of these will usually be held at county Record Offices.

4. Application was made through the local court for support payments from the father. These are often reported in the press.

5. The father names the child in his will under the phrase of 'my natural child' or even 'my reputed son/daughter'.

6. The mother marries soon, within months, after the child's birth and the child is always listed in a census as the husband's child. If it's not his child he'll list it as a step child. The likelihood in this case was that the couple were unable to marry before the child's birth perhaps because one party wasn't 21 or because of different religions but marry as soon as they can when any obstacles have been removed.


I have an instance of the circumstances in 6. The father wasn't named on the birth cert of a step-brother of my mother [she was born 10 years later to another mother] but he was raised and acknowledged as her father's son. The parents married 3 months after the child was born. Perhaps persuaded to do so by the bride's father who was a miner from St Helens! :roll:
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Hi Allan

I found that Harriett age 60 born Altrincham and her husband Thomas Willacy age 64 born St Helens were living in Sandown Lane Wavertree in 1901 there were two sons, Charles B age 28 and Thomas H age 17, also a daughter Amy 26 Thomas was a Retired Baker and Confectioner. There was also a servant Margaret Duffy age 24 born Ireland.

RG13 3504 folio 169 page 47

1911 directory 431 Smithdown Road confectioners.

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1894 Directory has a William Boote
Grocer and Tea Dealer
407 to 432 Smithdown Rd, not sure how that works with
odd and even numbers??
2 shops?
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Thank you all very much....Thomas Willacy and family living in Sandown Lane would fit in ...So who was lodging in 431 at the time as well as the lady who gave birth ? in 1896
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allan

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