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This will be a hard one to crack - Geoff's search engine allows searching with name, initial and 'other', as well as the full range of options, and there are a dozen Browns, with the initial W (with extras in some cases), with 'Liverpool' in their details.

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Here are soldiers whose forename begins W. Brown (order of elimination)

King's Liverpool Regiment
Brown
267961
Walter
Private
Liverpool
20th September 1917

I though this one looked promising, but the address put me off but as my earlier posting the details on CWGC were inserted 8 years after WW1 so they may have moved.

Royal Garrison Artillery
Brown
18764
William
Gunner
Liverpool
13th July 1917
Killed
Son of Jane Brown, of 53, Lennox St., Kensington, Liverpool, and the late George Brown.

Welsh Regiment
Brown
61021
William
Private
Liverpool
25th January 1918
Previously reported wounded, now reported Died of Wounds

King's Liverpool Regiment
Brown
204767
William
Rifleman
Liverpool
16th April 1918
Missing

Amongst St. Cyprian archives which I looked at during the week was the picture of St. Cyprian War Memorial and also a picture of Christ Church, Kensington War Memorial and I have just looked and there is a William Brown recorded on this memorial which I think is also the W. Brown recorded on St. Cyprian, from the list of the Boys Brigade we know he is also on there.

Royal Garrison Artillery
Brown
18764
William
Gunner
Liverpool
13th July 1917
Killed
Son of Jane Brown, of 53, Lennox St., Kensington, Liverpool, and the late George Brown.

Opinions welcome

Katie wrote:Amongst St. Cyprian archives which I looked at during the week was the picture of St. Cyprian War Memorial and also a picture of Christ Church, Kensington War Memorial and I have just looked and there is a William Brown recorded on this memorial which I think is also the W. Brown recorded on St. Cyprian, from the list of the Boys Brigade we know he is also on there.

Royal Garrison Artillery
Brown
18764
William
Gunner
Liverpool
13th July 1917
Killed
Son of Jane Brown, of 53, Lennox St., Kensington, Liverpool, and the late George Brown.

Opinions welcome

I think he looks good Katie, can anyone find the family in a census?

Thanks for keeping us focussed Amanda. This one is a possible

1901 6 Holdsworth Street, West Derby
All born Liverpool (no husband at home)
Jane Wife M 41
William E son 20 Printer's Machineman
Edith E 18 Cook Domestic
Thomas A 15 Errand Boy
Gertrude M 9
Laura J 8
Eliza 5
John Osborne is a boarder W 60 Baker and
Visitors Maggie 29 and Ethel 3 Walsh.
RG13; Piece: 3489; Folio: 106; Page: 36

But difficult to match them to either baptisms or other censuses to count them in or out. Anybody got better eyes?

Could this be the same family in 1881?

John Hutt Head M 29 Lpool, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Hutt Wife F 29 Lpool, Lancashire, England
Frederick W Hutt Son M 5 Lpool, Lancashire, England
Mabel Hutt Daughter F 3 Lpool, Lancashire, England
Ada Hutt Daughter F 0 Lpool, Lancashire, England
George E Brown Visitor M 23 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Jane Brown Visitor F 21 Aintree, Lancashire, England
William E Brown Visitor M 0 Lpool, Lancashire, England

Piece/Folio: 3677 / 22
Page Number: 38
63 Langham Street, Kirkdale

Looking good Karen and also gives us the George we are looking for.

Name:
William Ernest Brown

Gender:
Male
Baptism Date:
12 Jun 1880
Baptism Place:
St. Mary, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
Father:
George Edward Brown
Mother:
Jane

Possible,

1879,
BROWN George THORNTON Jane West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool

I hope we have linked them all together nicely, the power of a group!

The family (without our soldier) in the 1911 census:

28 Lennox St
Thomas Brown Head 25 Baker,
Jane Brown Mother, 51, widow, cook in cafe (and 7 of 7 children surviving!)
Gertrude Brown, 19, Domestic Servant
Sarah Brown, 18, Servant
Alice Brown, 16, Servant

In 1891 William and several of his siblings seem to be 'paupers' in Fazakerley District Cottage Homes.