G B Griffiths - George Bernard Griffiths Cabin Boy?

[Katie]

Reply from IFTC

These do not qualify as war dead as they were not on duty at the time of their deaths

Cheers

Chris

Commemorated by us and he is on the Liverpool Town Hall.

[daggers]

Well done in tracing all that information, Katie. As you say, we will remember them.

D

[steveflan]

Reply from IFTC

These do not qualify as war dead as they were not on duty at the time of their deaths

Cheers

Chris

Commemorated by us and he is on the Liverpool Town Hall.

I take it there is no chance of them reviewing due to, IMHO, "exceptional circumstances" and being commemorated as war dead?

I suppose the main thing is that as long as they are remembered.

Well done's all round methinks for everyone's very quick help on this (and others of course).

[dickiesam]

Reply from IFTC
These do not qualify as war dead as they were not on duty at the time of their deaths
Cheers
Chris

Commemorated by us and he is on the Liverpool Town Hall.

This appears to me to be a very convoluted manner of thinking. I assume the same 'rule/condition' therefore applies to the many deaths of patients resulting from the sinking of British Hospital ships by enemy action? Military patients who were lost were 'not on duty' when they died so are they not recorded by the CWRC?

http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/macslog/BritishHo ... Torpe.html

[alcavtay]

This appears to me to be a very convoluted manner of thinking. I assume the same 'rule/condition' therefore applies to the many deaths of patients resulting from the sinking of British Hospital ships by enemy action? Military patients who were lost were 'not on duty' when they died so are they not recorded by the CWRC?

http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/macslog/BritishHo ... Torpe.html

Military personnel were commemorated whether they were on active duty or not and no matter how they died even if they were run over by a bus while on leave. Merchant Seamen were civilians and only commemorated when killed by enemy action so even if they were on a convoy and died in an accident they weren't commemorated.

This rule means that you can find CWGC headstones for soldiers who never served abroad and died of flu during basic training (and I'm not saying that's wrong!) but not for seamen who risked their lives to bring in food & supplies and move troops and who accidentally drowned at sea.

Amanda

[Katie]

It's a touchy subject this which I am sure has been debated many times.

Well they are commemorated by me and all who research the Seamen of WW1.

[Katie]

24th Aug 1917-Liverpool Echo

GRIFFITHS-August 16 drowned at sea through the torpedoing of his ship while homeward bound, George Bernard, of 66, Cotswold Street

"No unkind word can touch him-He sleeps beneath the wave;
He nobly did his duty, before his life he gave,
He anchored in the harbour when the morn was shining clear"

Sadly missed by his loving Mother, Brothers and Sisters

[Katie]

I am going to have another go on this young boy getting the CWGC status he deserves.