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Medal ID please
Posted: 08 Sep 2009 17:50
by Barbara B

This is John Turner born Ireland 1808. I know he served as a soldier in India. in the 1830's. Can anyone identify these medals?
Thanks a lot
Barbara
Posted: 08 Sep 2009 19:02
by Mark Abbott
3rd from the left-Crimea?
Is there any chance of a close up scan of the medals?
Please post details of his service.
Mark
Posted: 09 Sep 2009 10:23
by MaryA
What a wonderful old picture, he had every right to be proud of his medals.
Posted: 09 Sep 2009 11:11
by Barbara B
Hi Mark
I don't have the original photo, only the copy in my files. Can I do a close-up from that? I know he was in the Light Dragoons but that's about all.
Mary, I agree - it's a great photo.
Cheers
Barbara
Posted: 09 Sep 2009 11:52
by Mark Abbott
Barbara,
A "Turner" rode in the Charge of the Light Brigade:
1263 Pte H Turner 4th L.D
Mark
Posted: 09 Sep 2009 12:00
by Mark Abbott
Having looked more carefully at the original post; I think my previous posts are suspect!!
In 1854 he would have been too old to serve in the Crimea.
Look at this web site:
http://www.britishmedals.info/jellalabad_medal.html
Mark
Posted: 09 Sep 2009 17:23
by Barbara B
Hi Mark
I've had a look in close-up at the medals but as the photo is so old the images break up as you zoom in. I looked at the site you suggested but none of them ressemble the Jellalebad medal.
Barbara
Posted: 09 Sep 2009 22:15
by Mark Abbott
The second from the right MAY (?) be this medal. Often, the original suspender was replaced with a non official one.
Without a clearer photo I regret I cannot progress this post.
Mark
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 10:45
by MaryA
Barbara, it's not the photograph itself, what you need is to ask the owner to rescan at a higher resolution, at least 600 dpi, this would stop it pixellating when zooming in.
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 13:02
by Barbara B
Hi Mary
The original owner hasn't got a computer! I can't get easy acess to the picture as I'm in France and they're in England. Is there any way I can make my copy clearer (answer needs to be in idiot -proof language as I'm not too computer literate)
Thanks Mark for trying.
Barbara
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 13:37
by MaryA
I don't believe so, it's the original scan that needs better resolution to be able to get a closer in shot.
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 19:03
by Hilary
Have you tried finding service records for this man?
Look on the National Archives website
search the catalogue adding WO (War Office) in the reference number box
If he appears ,although the only way you can get the record is by visiting the National Archives either yourself or by employing a reasearcher, the catalogue entry will give the regiment. You could then sdearch for what that regiment was doing.
Ed Officer
Scanning the medals
Posted: 11 Sep 2009 12:40
by dickiesam
If the owner of the photo can find someone with a computer and scanner, or a half-decent photo-shop, they should scan only the area of the photo containing the medals. Most scanning programs allow you to select the actual scan area. Then set the program to a resolution at least 50% higher than normal.
If you scan the whole photo at high resolution the resulting image will be very big.
Cheers,
Dickiesam
Posted: 12 Sep 2009 10:50
by Barbara B
Hi Education Officer
I had a look at National Archives and failed miserably. I can't seem to get to the right part of the site. I did say I wasn't too bright in the IT area!
Thanks Dickiesam, I'll try and organise something for the next time I'm in England.
Barbara
Posted: 12 Sep 2009 20:03
by Hilary
Go to
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
You will have in front of you search, visit us, research and learning, search the achives and some others
Put the cursor on search the archives and scroll down to The Catalogue and click
You have 3 boxes word or phrase, year range, department series code
Put the name in the first box and the initials WO in the departmnent series code
Click search and see what you get.
I would also suggest that on the home page you go to Research and Learning, scroll down to Military History and click then go to British Army and open that and then choose the option you want.
You could also go back to home get up the list on search the archives and scroll down to Documents on line and see whats there as they now have some 10th century Chelsea pensioner records ie Soldiers pension records
It's no worse than ancestry at times and after all we don't want family history to be too easy it's definitely a long hard trail!
Ed Officer
Posted: 13 Sep 2009 10:33
by Barbara B
Thanks Ed Officer, I did it. Haven't found anything as yet but now I know how to get there I'll persevere!
Barbara
Posted: 13 Sep 2009 17:21
by Ken Lees
If the owner of the photo has a digital camera, that might suffice. If they take a photo of the photo with their camera set on maximum resolution, the result should be clearer than the one you have.
Ken
Posted: 13 Sep 2009 17:47
by Barbara B
Thanks Ken, I'll ask them.
As an ex resident of Ormskirk can I ask where you are?
Now in France
Barbara