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Attn Mark A/WW1 help please

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Hi Mark
Albert John Moxon Pte with Kings 4th Btn died in Flanders on 27/5/1917 & remembered Bay 3 Arras Cem.
Would you please tell me what battle would have been going on at the time where the battalion were involved?
I've googled but so much stuff I'd thought I'd ask an expert :wink:

Albert had a brother Thomas A(Appleton) Moxon bn 1889 with his Ma in 1911 census Everton.
There's a medal card in Anc##, it could be him, I'm not sure.
I would like to know more about British Red Cross & St JJ, he has 2 medals. Don't know where this Thos A enlisted.

Any help as always very much appreciated.

Tina
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Here is a little for starters:
4th Bn KLR was an Extra Reserve unit formed at Seaforth on 4 Aug 1914. They arrived in France on 6 March 1915. By 27 Feb 1916 they were part of 98th Brigade in 33rd Division and were still in those formations at the Armistice.
Possibly more later.
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Hi Daggers
I didn't attention it to yourself as you are so busy with your own dedicated efforts.
Thank you very much for the info.
As always, much appreciated.

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Albert Moxon and Arras

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Hi Tina,
Since Albert was interred at Arras, it's a fair bet he died during the 1917 Arras Offensive. Have a look here for info about the 1917 Arras campaign. Page down to the correct time-line.

http://www.1914-1918.net/bat18.htm

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Post by Tina »

Thanks Dickiesam
I did go to the Long Long Trail site for the time frame but couldn't see a mention of Kings Regnt.
As Daggers said they became part of 98th Brigade so I need to go back again to the site.

Thanks for your interest it is much appreciated.

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Here is more, this from "A Record of the Battles and Engagements of the British Armies in France & Flanders 1914-1918" [what a title!], by Captain EA James (later Brigadier), 1990 edition.

Page 19 is headed "Operations. Flanking Operations to the Arras Offensive.(a) round Bullecourt..."
..."Actions on the Hindenburg Line, 20th May - 16th June: Third Army: VII Corps: 21st and 33rd Divisions".

4th Battalion, The King's (Liverpool Regiment) were in 33rd Division.
This action followed closely after the Battle of Bullecourt, 3rd - 17th May.

The book clarifies the grades, including Operations, Battles, Actions and Incidents.
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Thanks again Daggers re info Hindenburg Line & the Regiment.

Have a luverly Sunday

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Grey, wet and cool! Summer? Global what? Ha!
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Hi Daggers
We're having the coldest July for 20 yrs.
3c this morning and going lower...
Max today 14c, when you're blood is so thin it's a shocker..

At least it's winter :wink:

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I have recently visited the Arras War Memorial where my maternal grandfather is commemorated in Bay 1. He served in the Royal Navy Division which fought with the infantry at the Battle of Arras.
There are about 36000 names on the memorial and there is a small immaculatley kept cemetery.

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Thanks Riley, it's lovely to know everything is so well cared for.

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Hello Tina,

I hope you are feeling better.

I am no expert on the 4th Battalion ( or indeed on anything else!), so I'll leave the others to answer the question.

Best wishes from a wet and miserable (well if it isn't actuallty raining, it's very nearly raining) Liverpool.

Mark :D
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Post by Tina »

Hi Mark and thank you for asking after my health.
Should not moan after what other people have to put up with.
I get ratty as can't use computer, my eyes streaming...
You are an expert me dear and very much appreciated in our forum.
Sorry about your weather.
If you could view my park across the road, you would believe you were in England in October.
Roll on summer then I'll be whingeing about the heat..

Regs
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The battalion were heavily involved in the attack on the Hindenberg Line around this time, their principal efforts were in the area between Bullecourt and just west of Fontaine lez Croisilles.

After the fighting on the 20th May 1917, they were relieved and moved back to Boyelles, which they reached in the early hours of the 21st.


In the previous few days, they had lost 5 officers killed, 3 wounded, and 15 other ranks killed, with 79 wounded.

But on the 27th, they again attacked the enemy. Barring the capture of a machine gun emplacement which was held against all attempts to turn them out, the King’s men made little advance. Their casualties were 24 other ranks killed and wounded before they were relieved on the 28th.
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