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Hello... I am hoping someone can lead me in the right direction as to where to find out about my Grandfather William Foxley born 18/04/1893.. he was stationed at Siuggery Camp ( not sure of the spelling sorry) 1916 - 1917... he married my grandmother Mary Edith Smith in November 1917...I don't know what happened to him after that ...I think he was from Crew as before the army he was a railway carriage fitter or maker...I have there marriage certificate....his father was down as deceased on the certificate (he was
also called William Foxley) the marriage took place at The Register Office West Derby....
Am so grateful for any help thank you....

Anglesey Lady..

I think that place will turn out to be 'Sniggery', a temporary camp in the Hightown area.
I'll be back with more soon.
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There has been discussion on the Great War Forum about the Sniggery camp, but I think you have to join [no fee] to use their search facility.

There is no evidence of surviving soldiers' records for a soldier of the South Wales Borderers - 2/3 of these records were destroyed in the WW2 blitz.

Two named Private William Foxley crop up in the Medal Index cards, but no dates of birth or personal details are given.

One is 7076, who I am sure must have been a regular soldier, as he was with the 1st Battalion, SWB and earned the 1914 Star, which few later volunteers could earn. He was later in the 2nd Battalion, with number 317076 and later still in the Hampshire Regiment, 56409.

I shall have to break off, but back again soon.
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This becoming a serial!
I thought I had a second Borderer, but I was wrong. Is there anything on the marriage certificate about his army status - address, army number etc? Have you any of the three medals he would have earned, if he is the one I found with a 1914 Star? If so they should be impressed with name, rank, regiment and number.
Failing that, all I can think of for the moment is that he did not serve overseas, and so did not receive any awards.
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Searching the 1939 register and entering just, Foxley, 18/4/93,

Result,
William Foxley 1893 Crewe M.B. Cheshire
Ada (Martha) Foxley

Death?


Name:
William Foxley
Death Age:
74
Birth Date:
abt 1893
Registration Date:
Jun 1967
Crewe
Cheshire
Volume:
10a
Page:
296

There was a marriage,

William Foxley
Ada M Cawley
1922, Nantwich, 8a 742

This matches the 39 register, is it known if anything happened , Mary Edith?

In the 1911 census he appears to have been at Crewe, aged 17 and an apprentice loco fitter.
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daggers wrote:In the 1911 census he appears to have been at Crewe, aged 17 and an apprentice loco fitter.
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Providing he never broke his contract, he should have finished his apprenticeship on his 21st birthday, April, 1914. Time to join up, be trained up and ready for the Kick Off.

Bertieone wrote:

daggers wrote:In the 1911 census he appears to have been at Crewe, aged 17 and an apprentice loco fitter.
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Providing he never broke his contract, he should have finished his apprenticeship on his 21st birthday, April, 1914. Time to join up, be trained up and ready for the Kick Off.

Yes the one in the 1911 census I think is him..there isn't anything on his marriage certificate only Private South Wales Borderers...underneath is written railway carriage??in brackets ...I remember my mother saying he was a railway carriage maker...on my mothers wedding certificate in 1937 it says her father William Foxley was deceased....thank you both of you for your time and help Dagger and Bertieone....

The SWB soldier who was later in the Hampshire Regiment received a Silver War Badge, for which the entitlement was wounding. If he was wounded and spent time away from the SWB battalion he was with while being treated and recovering, he may have been posted to a different regiment when fit. He was discharged in December 1918 because he was no longer fit for service. There is sign of a pension record for him.
Without more details we cannot be sure this is the right man, but he is a definite possible!
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Some background,

William Foxley married Charlotte Brookes, 1890, Nantwich.

William Foxley died, 1898

Charlotte Foxley married James Frost Yates, 1904, Nantwich.

There isn't a suitable death registered in England & Wales for a William Foxley born 1893 between the birth and marriage of your mother, 1918-1937.

Your mother may have believed he was deceased or had her own good reasons for declaring so.

The William Foxley on the 39 register, 18/4.93. Crewe, unless just a coincidence, appears to be your grandfather.

daggers wrote:The SWB soldier who was later in the Hampshire Regiment received a Silver War Badge, for which the entitlement was wounding. If he was wounded and spent time away from the SWB battalion he was with while being treated and recovering, he may have been posted to a different regiment when fit. He was discharged in December 1918 because he was no longer fit for service. There is sign of a pension record for him.
Without more details we cannot be sure this is the right man, but he is a definite possible!
D

You may be lucky in finding a mention in the local newspaper for a wounded soldier.

Bertieone wrote:Some background,

William Foxley married Charlotte Brookes, 1890, Nantwich.

William Foxley died, 1898

Charlotte Foxley married James Frost Yates, 1904, Nantwich.

There isn't a suitable death registered in England & Wales for a William Foxley born 1893 between the birth and marriage of your mother, 1918-1937.

Your mother may have believed he was deceased or had her own good reasons for declaring so.

The William Foxley on the 39 register, 18/4.93. Crewe, unless just a coincidence, appears to be your grandfather.

Gosh Thank you Bertieone I have a feeling you could have hit the nail on the head here ....wonder why they stated he was dead ...brackdown in marriage maybe?? I am going with this lead you have given me....the William Foxley that died in 1898 would be his father...

Yes,

William Foxley 1868-1898 appears to be the father of William Foxley born 1893.

If correct,
did William Foxley marry Ada Martha Cawley as, widower, divorcee or bigamist?

Mary Edith preferred to use her middle name, Edith.

1939 register,

Edith Foxley 1893,
Edith Rankin,
Bootle.

Clearly not deceased.

Is this her death?



Edith Foxley
Death Age:
59
Birth Date:
abt 1894
Registration Date
Mar 1953
Liverpool North
Lancashire
Volume:
10d
Page:
283

Bertieone wrote:Is this her death?



Edith Foxley
Death Age:
59
Birth Date:
abt 1894
Registration Date
Mar 1953
Liverpool North
Lancashire
Volume:
10d
Page:
283

Yes this is my grandmothers death I remember that....she lived with her sister Edith Rankin at 7 Rydal st Liverpool 21....and Edith Rankin died in 1965 having moved to 4 Rydal st Liverpool 21....I have both there death certificates...
Thank you once again Bertieone....

Bertieone wrote:Yes,

William Foxley 1868-1898 appears to be the father of William Foxley born 1893.

If correct,
did William Foxley marry Ada Martha Cawley as, widower, divorcee or bigamist?

Gosh is there anymore I can find out about divorces in those days please?

I hope this can help,
http://ukdivorcerecords.co.uk/

Hopefully others can advise better than me, myself never having had to chase divorce records.

It would be interesting to see what was entered on his marriage certificate to Ada, but don't purchase that unless you think it's progress.

Bertieone wrote:I hope this can help,
http://ukdivorcerecords.co.uk/

Hopefully others can advise better than me, myself never having had to chase divorce records.

It would be interesting to see what was entered on his marriage certificate to Ada, but don't purchase that unless you think it's progress.

Well Bertieone I had to do it and have sent for the marriage certificate of William & Ada Martha ...had to find out once and for all..

Thank you once again for your help...