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Daniel Carroll RAMC WW1

Posted: 21 Nov 2014 22:46
by VicMar1
Hello Team, Starting on another line of the family that has come to an abrupt stop and cant get any further. I’m looking for a prod in the right direction here if anyone can help or suggest anything please.
Primarily, my interest is in DANIEL CARROLL born 17/08/1895 at Galloping Green, Stillorgan, Dublin
Parents = Joseph & Rosanna Carroll. The 1911 Census for Ireland has them living at No 3, Galloping Green, ,Stillorgan, Barony of Rathdown, Parish of Kill, Sth Dublin
He married Brigid Butler in Holy Cross Church, Dundrum, Dublin. 31/8/1927.
What is known for a fact is that despite being a very religious man and an objector to bearing arms, he enlisted and served with the RAMC and saw service in the Dardanelles. On the rare occasions that he ever spoke of the horrors he had experienced through the Great War he told of being “left floating in the water for hours before being rescued” It is not known whether this was whilst landing ashore or whether his ship was hit off shore.
He also is remembered for mentioning that he served at the western front (possibly 3rd Ypres) and going over the top to rescue the wounded and tend to the dying.
I feel it possible that he was enlisted into the 1st Battalion Dublin Fusiliers as their history puts them in Torquay 1914,Nuneaton & Kenilworth 1915, Gallipoli – Dardanelles 1915 and Western Front 1916 – 18. During reassignment in 1915 the 1st Dubliners came under the 86th Brigade/29th Division.
We can find no trace of a service record and have so far been unable to determine with any certainty his service number although I suspect that he may be Pte 1750, just a guess.
It would seem to me that he qualified for the BWM and the Victory Medal at least and if his training at Kenilworth and Nuneaton were in the early part of the year he should also have qualified for the ‘15 Star.
Cant get any further with this one but if anyone can help I would be most grateful.
EDIT ADD: He actually survived the conflicts and eventually passed away during the 1970's,and that is the confusing part,should there not have been a pensions record for him?

Re: Daniel Carroll RAMC WW1

Posted: 22 Nov 2014 00:13
by dickiesam
Hello Vic,
You might have a browse here http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forum ... opic=82422
There is reference in the posts to a NA link for the RAMC at Gallipoli.

Re: Daniel Carroll RAMC WW1

Posted: 22 Nov 2014 05:53
by Bertieone
Hi Vic,

Medal Card
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RAMC, 2B, (2 Balkans)( B Gallipoli, Dardanelles)

(HS) Hospital Ship.

Re: Daniel Carroll RAMC WW1

Posted: 22 Nov 2014 09:46
by MaryA
Under the heading British Army Service Records 1914-1920
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Re: Daniel Carroll RAMC WW1

Posted: 22 Nov 2014 13:13
by VicMar1
Great stuff Gang, Thank you. Bertie I had the MiC and had worked out the Hosptal Ship notation but was still puzzled over the "2B" coding ! That is now clear enough to be able to say with a little more confidence that we are "probably" correct with his Service number ?
Thanks Mary. searched that particular collection so many times and never seen this document come up at all,ever!
Thank you also to DS, I am sure that as I investigate that link further it will bring new ideas and directions,just the 'prods' I was looking for :)

Re: Daniel Carroll RAMC WW1

Posted: 22 Nov 2014 13:39
by MaryA
VicMar1 wrote: Thanks Mary. searched that particular collection so many times and never seen this document come up at all,ever!
Well you know I am a bit of a numpty with military stuff, so I hope you can make out what the doc is all about as I have not a clue - his name was on it and that's all that mattered to me ;)

Re: Daniel Carroll RAMC WW1

Posted: 22 Nov 2014 14:58
by Hilary
I thought that the words next to Carroll and the two men below him say Llandrindod Wells so I googled RAMC Llandrindod Wells and got loads of hits. It appears to have been a training camp for the RAMC and sounds as if they practically took over the town!

Re: Daniel Carroll RAMC WW1

Posted: 22 Nov 2014 16:36
by VicMar1
Thank You also Hilary,yet more strings to my bow as it were.
Will begin investigating those circumstances and see where it leads.

Add: Hmmm! Is it possible he was on board the Brittanic ?
Hit a mine and suffered a similar fate to its infamous sister 'Titanic' ?
Everything seems to fit but need more proof. :o

Amazingly a member of the family in Ireland has 'owned up' to having his medals in their posession and has confirmed that he was indeed "1750", so thats a huge help.