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BQMS
Posted: 08 Dec 2013 15:17
by simone
Hi
Been googling Battalion Quartermaster Sergeant? but not getting much description of this rank

What were the resposibilites of this rank?
Thanks
Simone
Re: BQMS
Posted: 08 Dec 2013 15:19
by Pegasus
Simone.
Found this Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartermaster
Hope this helps.
Re: BQMS
Posted: 08 Dec 2013 15:26
by simone
Ahh thanks Pegasus

tried Wiki but didn't get it, I must have done something wrong

thanks again
Simone x
Re: BQMS
Posted: 08 Dec 2013 18:18
by Pegasus
Glad to be of Help.
Re: BQMS
Posted: 08 Dec 2013 18:24
by daggers
Was your man in the Royal Artilllery? BQMS normally means Battery Quartermaster Sergeant, an appointment in the RA who would wear a crown above three chevron on the upper arms.
I do not think there is/was a Battalion QMS.
D
Re: BQMS
Posted: 08 Dec 2013 19:10
by simone
Yes he was Daggers

I just googled the letters and came up with battalion
Robert T Rudd 1882 to 1930. I have quite comprehensive knowledge about his ancestors and direct family but thought I would have a look at his military life if possible
Thanks
Simone x
Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 12:20
by daggers
Simone
I do not how far you have reached with BQMS Rudd, but I can offer you the following.
I found his medal index card on Ancestry which gives his two numbers, 1005 and 675212. He earned the 1915 Star, having arrived in France on 29 Sept 1915, also the Victory and British War Medals.
The Territorial Force were all renumbered in 1917 and his later number falls in the block allocated to this unit: 1/1st West Lancashire Brigade, Royal Field Artillery which in 1914 was based at Windsor Barracks, Spekeland Street (near Edge Hill sidings). They formed part of the West Lancashire Division which was later given the number '55th' and fought with distinction on the Western Front. The Artillery Brigade was also renumbered and in May 1917 became '275th Brigade Royal Field Artillery,TF'.
I hope this helps.
Daggers
Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 15:40
by simone
Brilliant! Thanks daggers
The medal card set me searching, but your extra info is much appreciated
Simone x
Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 15:41
by Katie
I have one listing so far for him in my wounded Rank and file lists Simone:-
13th-July-1917
Royal Field Artillery
Sergeant
Robert T
675212
Rudd
Everton
Wounded
I estimate he was wounded on or about the 13th May 1917
Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 15:54
by simone
Thanks Katie

wonder what happened...
sadly no service record on Ancestry
He died in 1930, Ormskirk district.. I've sent for his death cert to try and find out why he was in that area

he was from Liverpool, could be nothing... there was a rumour that the Rudd family had a music shop in Ormskirk but found nothing yet.
a letter in the family refers to Bob's untimely death
Also my grandfather spent some time in Ormskirk hospital when he was in Military Police in ww2, have never found out why he was in Ormskirk

.... hoping Robert's death cert will shed some light

Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 16:04
by Bertieone
Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 16:12
by simone
here he is ( photo courtesy of Gail Wilkins, New York)

Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 16:14
by simone
ooh Bert

that's fab, thank you

Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 17:24
by Bertieone
Hi Simone,
With Robert's love of cycling, I wonder,
4th line down,
http://www.europese-bibliotheek.nl/en/B ... 2#fragment
Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 17:32
by simone
Thanks again Bert
so it was a cycle shop by the look of it... wonder if there was a music shop too...... the family were more than musical

Re: BQMS
Posted: 09 Dec 2013 23:12
by daggers
Nice photo, showing him as a sergeant. The small badge above the chevrons is a gun, which Royal Artillery sergeants wore and still do today. The photo must date from earlier than his promotion to BQMS, or there would be a crown there. It is unusual for that gun badge to be in cloth, as they were usually brass - one on each sleeve.
I cannot identify the badge or badges on the lower sleeve but think they may be special to the Territorials.
D
Re: BQMS
Posted: 10 Dec 2013 08:38
by MaryA
How lovely to have that extra photograph and also a postcard of the premises!! wow.
Re: BQMS
Posted: 10 Dec 2013 09:16
by simone
Thanks again Daggers, I have what must be an earlier one too, with just 2 chevrons.
Yes, brilliant isn't it Mary

sadly the sample of the book doesn't go to postcard no 9, which is the one I need. Not sure I want to pay out about £20 just to get the one photo, will have to search around a bit more I think
Robert was my great grandmother's brother..
It's funny the 1905 photo of him in the Anfield BC, I see my son looking back at me......... don't you just love seeing those resemblances......
Simone x
Re: BQMS
Posted: 10 Dec 2013 09:55
by MaryA
Keep an eye on ebay, you never know what might pop up.
Re: BQMS
Posted: 10 Dec 2013 11:49
by simone
Just been on the Anfield Bicycle club website and they are in process of publishing the circulars from the first world war....... first one I clicked on mentioned Robert
If I go quiet, you know where I am

got a lot to read
must thank them for publishing :wink
it's all to be preserved by Cheshire Archives too
http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/council_ ... lders.aspx