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Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 07 Dec 2013 14:42
by paullaurence
Please can you help me find a picture or more information about my Great Grandad, Walter Marwood Laurence (1875-1959)?

Despite extensive searches of local studies departments and military museums much of Walters life is a mystery. I do not like mysteries and am determined to solve this one.

I have been researching my family history for years and strangely, I know more about my distant ancestors than my closest. For example, Walters father, Frank was born in Sheffield, became a printer and died of turbucolosis of the spine when Walter was two years old.
The following is a mixture of family legend and documentation:
After Franks death, Walter was brought up by his mother, Elizabeth Catherine nee Marwood.
William Michael, Walters grandad, married a Quaker lass from Sheffield and up to Walter Quakerism was the way. He attended Penketh Quaker school. Walter, eschewed the religious side completely when he grew up, even when he died just wanting no words, no ceremony, just a plain square with a hole in it. " Just make sure I am dead" he said.
In the 1901 census Walter registered as (commercial traveller) Draper. The family had ' Laurence & ? ' drapers shop in Lime Street, Liverpool which went bust. I cannot trace this shop.
Walter then worked for a German man whom Walter afterwards thought must have been a spy because he always insisted on doing the East coast companies and Scarborough and another port were badly bombed in WWI and Walter's boss disappeared at the outbreak of WW1 ( interred, scarpered, shot?) so Walter was unemployed. I cannot find the name of this employer.
He became billeting/welfare officer in Birkenhead responsible for several thousand Belgian refugees throughout the War. I cannot find a record of this.
He married Elsie Mary Woodward June 1904 and they had two sons, Norman and Richard. Elsie died Jan 1919.
Walter had 3 mates called D.J. Clark who owned the Argyle Theatre, Jack Keating Manager of the theatre and Fred E Smith who was a barrister in Liverpool, later MP - who ended up as Lord Chancellor - Lord Birkenhead.

After the War Walter was again unemployed and through a friend (Charles Hall), FE Smith got him a job as office manager & cashier with a firm of solicitors Hall, Brydon & Chapman in Manchester.
After Jack Keating died Walter was very good to his widow, Polly, who was left with two daughters and a 4 month old baby boy called John. Walter had his eye on the eldest daughter Marjorie Keating who he married in 1929: she was 22 and Walter was 50!
And still despite extensive enquiries I cannot find a picture of Walter!
I am 50 myself now, and work in a call centre in South Yorkshire. Family history becomes important at my age, to know where you came from.

Re: Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 08 Dec 2013 08:53
by MaryA
Hi and welcome to the forum. You seem to have covered many areas of research but I hope that we can make some suggestions.

Unless there is a photograph held in a family archives, then I wonder if the newspapers might be a place to check. If you don't have a subscription, then your local library might have access to Findmypast which holds newspaper archives post 1900 with a digital search of them might be easier than a manual search.

Do you know if he had any service history? There are sometimes photographs in the newspapers regarding military events.

Ancestry holds a 1911 Gores Directory Index for him at 10 Normanston Road, Oxton, Birkenhead.

I also thought the name Laurence sounded recently familiar to me, just read the article in the Journal about the Temperance Hotel in Clayton Square, I don't suppose there is any connection between your families?

I would imagine you also have the Will for Walter, Probate index states LAURENCE Walter Marwood of 604 Kings Road Stretford Lancashire died 25 January 1959 Probate Manchester 4 September to Marjorie Mary Laurence widow. Effects £3016 2s 6d.

Re: Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 08 Dec 2013 10:06
by paullaurence
Hi Mary,
Thankyou for the welcome and replying to my post. I write the article in the magazine. Laurence was originally my surname, that upon my mother remarrying, I took as my middle name.
I have searched the Findmypast newspapers, and also Birkenhead Local Studies have looked in their newspaper collection. I can find nothing in the military records, so I am a bit stumped.

Re: Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 08 Dec 2013 11:59
by Bertieone
Hi Paul,

Have you made contact with Unilever Archives, The Belgium refugees were billeted at Hume Hall, Port Sunlight and then moved to Parkgate, Wirral.

1916 Directory,

Walter Lawrence, commercial traveller, 13 Parkbridge Rd, Birkenhead.

Re: Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 08 Dec 2013 19:32
by paullaurence
Hi Bert,

Thankyou for the directory extract I had not seen. I have not contacted Unilever Archives as I believed they only dealt with businesses. I have emailed them today so hopefully I will receive a reply next week.

Re: Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 09 Dec 2013 07:49
by MaryA
Do let us know if they respond positively, we'd love to hear of any updates.

I also enjoyed your article in the Journal, thanks.

Re: Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 09 Dec 2013 09:15
by paullaurence
Hi Mary,
I shall. Thankyou for your kind comment about my article. I have other articles in preparation about the LAURENCES of Liverpool, including a mariner who sailed from Liverpool on 8 Ships, and possibly stayed at his cousins Clayton Square, Temperance Hotel. I hope they acceptable for the journal.

Re: Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 12 Dec 2013 20:42
by paullaurence
Hi Bert and Mary,

UPDATE

Unilever Archives got back to me. They have no record of a Walter Marwood Laurence. I can only conclude that he may have been acting personally and the gift to him by the Belgian refugees of a marble desktidy was for his kindness.
I shall keep looking.

Re: Walter Marwood Laurence

Posted: 13 Dec 2013 08:10
by MaryA
I'm sorry you didn't get a good result Paul, I know you will keep looking and hope we may be able to think of other suggestions.

We will look forward to your other articles in the Journal too.