William Foxley..South Wales Borderers 1916 ?.

[Bertieone]

Please let us know the results.

[lynne99]

Yes Anglesey Lady , please do. We are all waiting with baited breath. What a tale to uncover.

[Anglesey lady]

Yes Anglesey Lady , please do. We are all waiting with baited breath. What a tale to uncover.

Yes I promise I will let you know the results as soon as I get the certificate from GRO...thank you all...I have also sent for a couple for Annie Smith my first post on here will keep you informed....

[Anglesey lady]

Yes Anglesey Lady , please do. We are all waiting with baited breath. What a tale to uncover.

Yes I promise I will let you know the results as soon as I get the certificate from GRO...thank you all...I have also sent for a couple for Annie Smith my first post on here will keep you informed....

Lynne99 I received the Annie Smith certificates and they where babies...unknown to me I didn't know you could look up on a site for age before sending....but thankfully Blue70 has put me on the right track....I am so greatful as I am a novice at this ....

[Anglesey lady]

Please let us know the results.

Well I got the certificate about William Foxley and Ada Martha's marriage this morning....Am sure it's not my William Foxley...it says he is a 29 year old bachelor!! Who was an engine fitter..... It does say his father was also called William Foxley but no mention of his father been deceased?? so where to go from here??

Many Thanks for your help.
Anglesey Lady

[Bertieone]

Correct age, job within the railway business.

He can't declare he was a widower, he wasn't, marriage wasn't dissolved and he certainly couldn't declare he was committing bigamy, bachelor being the only option remaining.
If the question wasn't asked about his father's status and it wasn't always asked, deceased couldn't be entered.

Is father's occupation correct?

[Anglesey lady]

Correct age, job within the railway business.

He can't declare he was a widower, he wasn't, marriage wasn't dissolved and he certainly couldn't declare he was committing bigamy, bachelor being the only option remaining.
If the question wasn't asked about his father's status and it wasn't always asked, deceased couldn't be entered.

Is father's occupation correct?

No in the marriage to my G/mother his father was a farm labourer and the marriage to Ada his father was a builder....his age in 1917 when he married first was down as 28.....then in the 1922 marriage he is down as 29 years old!?

[Bertieone]

Hello... I am hoping someone can lead me in the right direction as to where to find out about my Grandfather William Foxley born 18/04/1893.. he was stationed at Siuggery Camp ( not sure of the spelling sorry) 1916 - 1917... he married my grandmother Mary Edith Smith in November 1917...I don't know what happened to him after that ...I think he was from Crew as before the army he was a railway carriage fitter or maker...I have there marriage certificate....his father was down as deceased on the certificate (he was
also called William Foxley) the marriage took place at The Register Office West Derby....
Am so grateful for any help thank you....

Anglesey Lady..

Where did this date of birth come from?

[Anglesey lady]

Hello... I am hoping someone can lead me in the right direction as to where to find out about my Grandfather William Foxley born 18/04/1893.. he was stationed at Siuggery Camp ( not sure of the spelling sorry) 1916 - 1917... he married my grandmother Mary Edith Smith in November 1917...I don't know what happened to him after that ...I think he was from Crew as before the army he was a railway carriage fitter or maker...I have there marriage certificate....his father was down as deceased on the certificate (he was
also called William Foxley) the marriage took place at The Register Office West Derby....
Am so grateful for any help thank you....

Anglesey Lady..

Where did this date of birth come from?

A few years ago my daughter in law did our family tree..and she found him...but never found out where when he died...we found that he was born to Charlotte and William Foxley I have details of them and will look them out in a bit and get in touch again...when the father William died ...Charlotte remarried and a James Yeats....I will check on that later..

Thanks..

[Bertieone]

Being 28 in 1917 as you know doesn't give a birth date of 1893.

The William Foxley born to William & Charlotte was born 1893, in 1911 he was living with his mother Charlotte and James Yates, William is recorded as Loco fitter, apprentice.

The UK railway employment records have an apprentice,, William Foxley, on a months trial, birth date, 18/4/1893. This is the same William Foxley who married Ada Martha in 1922.

[Bertieone]

There's another William Foxley in the UK Railway Employment records, a Labourer, birth date, 18/5/1889.

He married Eveline Minshall, 1913, Nantwich. Still together 1939?

Dismiss him.

[Anglesey lady]

Being 28 in 1917 as you know doesn't give a birth date of 1893.

The William Foxley born to William & Charlotte was born 1893, in 1911 he was living with his mother Charlotte and James Yates, William is recorded as Loco fitter, apprentice.

The UK railway employment records have an apprentice,, William Foxley, on a months trial, birth date, 18/4/1893. This is the same William Foxley who married Ada Martha in 1922.

It's very confusing I might get in touch with The records office in Crewe after the bank holiday....Charlotte and James Yates got married in 1904 in Nantwich...I don't think I am going to get to the bottom of it all...

Anglesey lady

[MaryA]

Never give up, little things slot into place bit by bit and then suddenly it all comes together, but often needs patience, you could be told by every one of us that sometimes it took a number of years to get a result for a problem and then suddenly the right clue came along.

[Anglesey lady]

Thank you Mary...I won't give up it's like something in me really wants to find him and what happened to him...yes indeed patience is needed..

Anglesey Lady

[Bertieone]

The William Foxley, 18/4/93 and all associated with him, William & Charlotte, Ada Martha, etc, need to be put to one side.
This can't be the same person who married Mary Edith in 1917, providing the information on that marriage certificate was given correctly, for now we have to assume it was.

An age of 28 on the marriage cert gives a birth approx. 1889,
Births registered in England & Wales, 1889 +/-2

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / MILLINGTON... Father, John
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 257

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / DICKINSON... Father,Thomas
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in NANTWICH Volume 08A Page 383

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / MCDONELL... Father, William, marriage, Wigton???
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 599
Possible death of this child, aged 8, Middlesborough, 1897.

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 117

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / MAWDSLEY... Father, Peter
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 234

To narrow it down further, who had a Father, William?

Edited to add likely Fathers,

[Anglesey lady]

The William Foxley, 18/4/93 and all associated with him, William & Charlotte, Ada Martha, etc, need to be put to one side.
This can't be the same person who married Mary Edith in 1917, providing the information on that marriage certificate was given correctly, for now we have to assume it was.

An age of 28 on the marriage cert gives a birth approx. 1889,
Births registered in England & Wales, 1889 +/-2

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / MILLINGTON... Father, John
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 257

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / DICKINSON... Father,Thomas
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in NANTWICH Volume 08A Page 383

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / MCDONELL... Father, William, marriage, Wigton???
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 599
Possible death of this child, aged 8, Middlesborough, 1897.

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 117

FOXLEY, WILLIAM / MAWDSLEY... Father, Peter
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 234

To narrow it down further, who had a Father, William?

Edited to add likely Fathers,

Thank you Bert for all the trouble you are going to finding all these things out..

Anglesey lady

[Bertieone]

I can't make progress on the William Foxley 1890 birth, mothers maiden name, Williams.

There doesn't appear to be a Foxley/Williams marriage, perhaps no marriage took place and used the fathers name or married as a widow.

Between 1880 and 1900, no other children were born in the Liverpool area, Foxley/Williams combination, may suggest no marriage or further relationship?

"3rd (Reserve) Battalion, South Wales Borderers.
August 1914 : in Brecon. A training unit, it remained in UK throughout the war. Moved on 8 August 1914 to Pembroke Dock. A detachment was sent between November 1914 and March 1915 to Edinburgh. Moved in June 1915 to Hightown near Liverpool for duty as part of Mersey Garrison"

Questions for the Brains Trust.

Is it likely the South Wales Borderers recruited locally?

Was there a Railway Carriage Works, etc. local to Liverpool?

[Anglesey lady]

I can't make progress on the William Foxley 1890 birth, mothers maiden name, Williams.

There doesn't appear to be a Foxley/Williams marriage, perhaps no marriage took place and used the fathers name or married as a widow.

Between 1880 and 1900, no other children were born in the Liverpool area, Foxley/Williams combination, may suggest no marriage or further relationship?

"3rd (Reserve) Battalion, South Wales Borderers.
August 1914 : in Brecon. A training unit, it remained in UK throughout the war. Moved on 8 August 1914 to Pembroke Dock. A detachment was sent between November 1914 and March 1915 to Edinburgh. Moved in June 1915 to Hightown near Liverpool for duty as part of Mersey Garrison"

Questions for the Brains Trust.

Is it likely the South Wales Borderers recruited locally?

Was there a Railway Carriage Works, etc. local to Liverpool?

There could well have been a carriage works in Liverpool....but most definitely would have been in Crewe...my grandmother was living in Thornton Road when she met him ...they married at the end of November and my mum was born the 13th June ?? Which meant she was already pregnant with my mum...I am going on the South Wales Borderers site later on to see what I can find out...

Anglesey lady