I only go out of my way to give this sort of help to our Society Members as it does take up the time I might have been doing my own research - so to everybody - don't forget to keep up your memberships, it has added benefits.
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Thanks Bertie, there is a John Brown at St Thomas's C of E in Wavertree with no other details, so this is possibly him commemorated at the church where he married my nan.
I thought there was some kind of honour book or something at the Anglican Cathedral or some other important place like the Town Hall???
BarbaraW wrote:
I thought there was some kind of honour book or something at the Anglican Cathedral or some other important place like the Town Hall???
It's rather more than a book, more like a huge room full of Memorial boards containing over 13,000 names. These don't identify whether our heroes are also commemorated around the city on memorials in churches etc.
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And there is indeed a big book at Liverpool Anglican cathedral, said to contain a full list of Liverpool men (unlike the Town Hall list, which is just the ones that were reported to them.)
The big book at the Anglican Cathedral is in a locked glass case, but if you make an appointment they will find the page number in advance from their own records, meet you, unlock the case and turn to your man. But if it's a common name you have to be sure of the regiment and battalion so they identify the right page.
Barbara
barley28 wrote:And there is indeed a big book at Liverpool Anglican cathedral, said to contain a full list of Liverpool men (unlike the Town Hall list, which is just the ones that were reported to them.)
The big book at the Anglican Cathedral is in a locked glass case, but if you make an appointment they will find the page number in advance from their own records, meet you, unlock the case and turn to your man. But if it's a common name you have to be sure of the regiment and battalion so they identify the right page.
Barbara
Thanks Barbara I thought I'd read it somewhere.......
BarbaraW wrote:
I thought there was some kind of honour book or something at the Anglican Cathedral or some other important place like the Town Hall???
It's rather more than a book, more like a huge room full of Memorial boards containing over 13,000 names. These don't identify whether our heroes are also commemorated around the city on memorials in churches etc.
If you are sure he's not on the Town Hall Roll of Honour then it's up to you to apply and have him put on it.
MaryA Our Facebook Page
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I have a transcript of all the names on the Town Hall Roll of Honour. There is a Private J. Brown, King's Liverpool Regiment, on panel 12.1. No battalion is given for this man, so he might be the right one, but there is no way it can be confirmed or otherwise. The panels do not show regimental numbers but some entries do show the battalion. It probably depended on what information was handed in by families at the time.
The Medal Roll for your man shows his battalion as 13th and he was entitled to the Victory and British War Medals but with no date for entry into a war zone, probably meaning it was after 1 Jan 1916. 13th Battalion arrived at Le Havre on on 27 Sep 1915 so it is likely that Pte Brown was a later reinforcement.
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27 men of 13th Battalion are recorded by CWGC as dying on 8 Oct 1918, and most have burial records. Four are listed on the Vis en Artois Memorial to the Missing.
D
daggers wrote:I have a transcript of all the names on the Town Hall Roll of Honour. There is a Private J. Brown, King's Liverpool Regiment, on panel 12.1. No battalion is given for this man, so he might be the right one, but there is no way it can be confirmed or otherwise. The panels do not show regimental numbers but some entries do show the battalion. It probably depended on what information was handed in by families at the time.
The Medal Roll for your man shows his battalion as 13th and he was entitled to the Victory and British War Medals but with no date for entry into a war zone, probably meaning it was after 1 Jan 1916. 13th Battalion arrived at Le Havre on on 27 Sep 1915 so it is likely that Pte Brown was a later reinforcement.
ADDED LATER:
27 men of 13th Battalion are recorded by CWGC as dying on 8 Oct 1918, and most have burial records. Four are listed on the Vis en Artois Memorial to the Missing.
D
Thank you very much Daggers it seems pointless to pursue it any further if as you say there is no way of confirming it.
Yes he is one of those listed on the Vis en Artois Memorial to the Missing, how very sad that there isn't even a proper burial grave for a lot of these young men.
I've spoken to my mum today and she had no idea that her mum and John Brown were second cousins (I think that's the relationship??) she told me he was known as Jack.
