Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Hello,

Does anyone know what has happened to the Liverpool History Projects, as you don't get any answers to emails to them.
The website is still there at http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/ though.
The reason for asking is that there appears to be a discrepancy between the LHP baptisms for St Nicholas Copperas Hill and the records for same on ancestry.co.uk.
There are 3 Stackpool/Stackpoole Catholic baptisms (with genuine details) that are missing from ancestry - the Liverpool Record Office tell me that St Nicholas is supposed to be complete.

Year-Ref Church Volume (page) Birth Baptism Name Forename Father Mother (maiden name)
1900-7147 ST NICHOLAS 282-NIC-1-10 (9) 1894 1900 JOHN STACKPOOL JOHN EMMA GARDINER
1900-7148 ST NICHOLAS 282-NIC-1-10 (3 ) 1900 1900 WILLIAM THOMAS STACKPOOL JOHN EMILY GARDNER
1898-5005 ST NICHOLAS 282-NIC-1-9 (150) 1898 1898 MARY ANN STACKPOOLE JOHN EMMA GARDNER

Any clues how I might get at the original records that the above details came from?

Thanks

Hi and welcome to the forum. I am not sure that the owner of the site has as much interest now that Ancestry has provided the same information.

I do know though that Ancestry does not have complete records, it may be that the Record Office have provided them with everything, but it could be an error on the part of Ancestry as to why they are missing.

The original records are still held at the Record Office, Ancestry does only have a copy, and you can check them there.

She is too busy with her Merseyside Roll of Honour to answer her emails. I am forever being pulled up about this site. Less said the better.

The records on Ancestry do look complete no sign of those baptisms though. It's a pity about LHP they were very helpful to me a few years ago.


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There is something very odd going on here. Thinking that the St Nicholas registers might not have been transcribed for 1900 I found them on Ancestry and have been through all 36 pages of them. Not a single Stackpool/e!

I wonder if there is confusion between the two St Nicks?

282 is the reference for RC Churches and I did go through St Nicholas RC on Liverpool RC Baptisms on Ancestry.

I did try and look up the actual references for the church in the Catalogue but got nowhere!

The page numbers given on the Liverpool History projects make no sense to the actual page numbers. On the actual page numbers you're in the 300s for the relevant quarter for Mary Ann in 1898 but according to Liverpool History projects its page 150.

Could they have the wrong RC church?

Education Officer wrote: Could they have the wrong RC church?

Not much would surprise me about that site.

When I looked at the records for St Nicholas RC on Ancestry I noticed there were a lot of baptisms for unmarried mothers which suggests to me that it is St Nicholas RC as that church was responsible for baptising RC children born at the Liverpool Workhouse. I noticed recently from posting on a thread on another site that an RC baptism from 1894 that LHP had as taking place at the Workhouse was included in the St Nicholas RC baptism register on Ancestry. I found it odd that LHP should have the record indexed as Workhouse rather than St Nicholas. I could see by the 282 NIC code on the LHP record that it was St Nicholas so I located it on Ancestry. How did LHP know which were St Nicholas and which were Workhouse? Perhaps for some years the baptisms are not the combined St Nicholas/Workhouse records and may be one or the other instead?


Blue

I could be wrong, and I will have to check? but those that were born in the Workhouse were recorded in separate registers. And those who were born in the Parish of St Nicholas Copperas Hill were in separate registers. I will check and confirm.

If you search for Margaret Lockhart baptised in 1894 on LHP it says Workhouse. This baptism can be viewed on Ancestry under St Nicholas RC. I tried looking for a number of the St Nicholas baptisms in 1898 that are on LHP on Ancestry but couldn't find any of them. It looks to me like some of the St Nicholas RC baptisms on Ancestry took place at the Liverpool Workhouse and the baptisms that took place in the church for those years are missing from Ancestry.


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