Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Jane Eyes (b. 1796, Liverpool) married James Harris on 6th Oct 1828 at St. Mary's, Walton. She died on 4th December 1846 in Esless Cottage, near Wrexham, Denbighshire and was buried in Wrexham. (The death notice in the Liverpool Mercury states 'Esclusham Cottage')


(Taken from the Manchester Times, Friday 11 December 1846)

I had, until recently, been unable to find out any more about them until I found the following on the 1851 Census:

Brunswick Road, West Derby
James Harris / lodger / widower / 71 / Gentleman / Birmingham
Frederick Harris / son / unmarried / 20 / clerk / Wales, Wrexham
(Piece: 2192, Folio: 14, Page Number: 20)

Frederick turned out to be James Frederick Harris, b. 1831 in Wrexham. He was baptised in Wrexham on 9th September 1831, his parents being recorded as James & Jane Harris living in Bersham. James is a 'Gentleman.' I also wonder if this is the same James Frederick Harris who seems to have had a second baptism on 16th September 1833 at St. John the Baptist, Chester. Parents are James & Jane Harris, Gentleman, of Brook Street.

James Frederick Harris died on 15th May 1891 at 13 Paradise Row, Chester and was buried at Ruthin Road Cemetery, Wrexham. His probate record was what assured me I had the correct person as I know that John Johnson Wilson was his cousin.



I am trying to find the family on the 1841 Census (as I know Jane was still alive then) and also trying to find James Frederick on the 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses but have so far been unsuccessful!

I am also trying to find the death of James, b. about 1780 in Birmingham. There were paper mills in Bersham/Esclusham leased by a Harris family and I am trying to prove a connection there.

Anyone have any ideas?

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1880 US Fed Census



James F. Harris , 1831, Wales
49
Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Single

Father's Birthplace
England
Mother's Birthplace
England

In 1880, James Frederick was boarding with Arthur & Elizabeth Poole from England, if those names mean anything to you.

1860 USFC,

James F Harris, Wales, Boarder, Book Keeper,
29
Home in 1860, Boarding House
New York Ward 2, New York, New York
Post Office
New York

Thank you! I'll look into him - it would certainly explain why I can't find him on any UK Census! The name Poole isn't one that's cropped up but, as I'm connected to his mother's family, it's possible they could be from his father's side.

1841?

James Harris, 55, Merchant
Jane, 40
James, 9

Class: HO107; Piece: 129; Book: 13; Civil Parish: St John The Baptist; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 5; Page: 4; Line: 23; GSU roll: 241255

In the event of whoever forwarded the information not having the full facts, a possible?

1891, Chester,
RG12 P2861 F10 P13

Richard A Medel 47
Fanny Medel 33
Clara K Medel 2
John F Harris 60, Single, Living off own means, place of Birth, Not Known.

In 1891 on census night, James Frederick is not at his place of death, 13 Paradise Row.
It appears to be a lodging/boarding house.

Jane Roberts,39, head, widow, house keeper, lodging.
Thomas, 9, son
Ann Foulkes, 45, sister
Mary Prise?, 18, niece
Alfred H G Edwards, boarder, Chaplain.
? Davies, 16, boarder, office clerk
William Smith, 39, boarder, office clerk.

RG12; Piece: 2864; Folio: 85; Page: 4;

Bertieone, thank you so much! You've given me plenty to think about there.

I managed to nip into the Record Office this morning to see if James Harris was listed in any directories around 1851 as I know he was in Liverpool then but he wasn't listed between 1848 and 1853.