obituary notices

[lemondog]

hi .again would you know if they had obituary or death notices for s/port in the visiter archives at Crosby library. can`t find any records for Frederick 1948 and emms 1965 burials at main s/port cemeteries so they must be in a church ? may find ref in obituary ? any ideas

[MaryA]

Best if you do have the exact date of death as that would narrow down your search, if a obituary notice has been put in the newspaper it should be either in one of those for the area held at Crosby, or possibly the Liverpool Echo which is held at the Liverpool Record Office, but I think possibly a copy would also be at Crosby, might be useful for you to give them a ring to be sure before you go.

[lemondog]

thanks again mary . you would think ancestry would have wider burial records ? it`s easy
to find catholic relations in Liverpool !
the death notces are just the 1st quarter jan-march 1948 .fred s/port .vol.10f page 664
emma 1965 s/port vol 10f page 673

[MaryA]

Ancestry can only use records that they are provided with. There has been a recent discussion on a similar subject recently http://forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk ... 24&t=13073

As you have the quarter dates at least you will have only a three month search in each case.

[dickiesam]

In order to trim the obituary/death notice search parameters to little more than a week would it not be worth investing in the death cert to get the exact date and place of death? Also, the name, relationship and address of the informant could be a clue as to place of burial or cremation.

[lemondog]

hi. the cert may be an option I may take later , the last address I have off there son toms wedding cert in 1928 was 103 Kensington rd s/port. they were st.phillip and st.pauls church but emma was baptised at holy trinity.

[Hilary]

The Southport Visiter is on film at both Crosby and Southport libraries. There will only be a death notice if the family put the notice in the paper. There may be a report of the funeral. If you want Sefton Local History based at Crosby library to do a search for you, you will need a date of death or you can go and trawl through the newspaper yourself.

If they were buried in Southport the most likely place for them to be is Duke Street cemetery. The records for the cemetery are held at Southport Crematorium. I am doing this on an iPad and haven't learnt to cut and paste so you will have to google for a telephone number or email address. They may be prepared to look for a burial record with only a quarter but may not. They charge if you want to know everyone in the grave. This is the only way to find out as they hold the only records.

I have just noticed you mention catholic relations. If they are RC they may well be in Ainsdale RC cemetery. I don't know where the original records are but I'm fairly certain there is a set of microfiche at both Liverpool Archives and Sefton Local History that cover Ford, Yew Tree and Ainsdale cemeteries which you could go and look at.

Duke Street cemetery also has a RC section.

[lemondog]

hi .thanks for your interest .I have tried the main cemeteries in s/port duke st & Liverpool rd and the crem. they are not there . sorry if I mislead you but they are not catholic ,I was just looking back on other relations who were easy to find because they were catholic. but it is a lot harder to trace c of e and other faiths . thanks again for you info

[Hilary]

The only church with a graveyard by that time was St cuthbert's in Churchtown. Maybe he went back to his birthplace?

[lemondog]

yes I Was thinking about that but he came from Cumbria ,near cockermouth and his wife emma was a rimmer and born in southport, Frederick had been in lancs since 1900.?

[Hilary]

I think you will either have to go and sit in Southport or Crosby library and trawl the Southport Visiter for quarter of Frederick's death for a funeral notice or you purchase his death certificate and then go and check the Visiter for around that date for a funeral notice. As far as I can see that's the only way you will find out unless you can find a descendant who knows the answer!

[lemondog]

yes I think it is a visit to Crosby . I have sent a message to distant g.granddaughter of fredricks eldest son to see if anything was passed down but that's a long shot .thanks to you all ,as always a great help to me.

[lemondog]

Good news folks , the lovely people at st.cuthberts have found Frederick and emma . and have given me the grave numbers .I would never have looked at chuch town if it wasn`t for you clever people thankyou so much , I`m so chuffed. barbara

[dickiesam]

Hi Barbara,
Love a bit of good news, especially first thing to start the day. Pleased for you.

[MaryA]

Great news, now you can have a day out at the church before the weather turns bad.

[lemondog]

yes and there`s a nice pub next door I think . st .cuthberts are going to send me a plan of the cemetery and aphoto of the stone , they really are very kind . barbara