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Ive found my Great Uncle's wedding certificate ( Thomas Arthur Jones ) 1916 ,who marries a Mary Melia who was 16 yrs old (he was 22).

Unfortunatley Tom was killed in WW1 in Sept 1918 . So Mary became a widow at 18 . They lived in Vaughan St Liverpool 8 . I checked the electoral rolls for that road ( before the Liverpool record office closed) & it appears that Mary left her home she shared with Tom around 1920.

Does anyone know how I would track her down( records wise that is ! )? Or am I completely barking !

She could have remarried what with being a young widow.

I was thinking that is the likely scenario.

Thanks Kathy

Hi,
I think it would be worth checking for children to this unfortunate couple. There's this birth:
Births Mar 1917 > Jones, Mary F - [Melia] - Toxteth P - 8b - 250.

There's also this one which is stretching somewhat given that Thomas died the previous September but the child could have been born in the June, or even earlier and registered late.
Births Sep 1919 > Jones, Norah - [Melia] - Toxteth P - 8b - 24.

I think it is probable that Mary married again but it could be a long haul finding it. If you found that one of the above children was born to Mary and Thomas it might be easier to check for later marriages for them. For instance, between 1935 [when Mary F Jones would have been 18] and 1945, there are 2 Mary F marriages in Liverpool and 2 in Crosby.

Brian

Thanks ever so much Brian . Thats a start for me anyway on this side .

Mary's parents lived in Vaughan rd for some time after she left .

if mary had any siblings you could try finding their descendants and seeing if anyone remembers her......found the neice of someone I was looking for, quite elderly but had documents and info enabling me to locate others that were now dead...worth a try

Following up on Susan's suggestion about siblings.. there's only 1 Mary Melia bn 1900 [+/- 1 yr] in Liverpool in the 1901:

MELIA, James - Head - 38 - Dock Labourer - Liverpool.
MELIA, Frances - Wife - 35 - Liverpool.
MELIA, Hugh - Son - 12 - Liverpool.
MELIA, Mary - Dtr - 1 - Liverpool.
Address: 69/9 Mann Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool.
RG13 / Piece:3429 / Folio:12 / Page:15.

If this is the right Mary [father's name on marriage cert], then finding the family in 1911 would hopefully produce more siblings especially if what I found next is concerning her brother Hugh.

Couldn't find a marriage but, unfortunately, this looks like a possible match for Hugh: Deaths Jun 1916 > Melia, Hugh - 27 - W.Derby - 8b - 465.

And from the CWGC:
MELIA , H - Stoker 1st Class - SS/108670 - 22/04/1916 - Royal Navy - United Kingdom Screen Wall (SJ. 1293). - LIVERPOOL (FORD) ROMAN CATHOLIC CEMETERY.

So it's the 1911 I think....

Brian

Hi Brian & Susan ,

I found a record of Mary's family around 1910-1912 , 1 OAK PLACE ,CLIVE ST LIVERPOOL.

Father was James ( on the wedding cert ) . Mary aged 11 has 3 sisters ,
Winnie 9 , Annie 6 , Norah 4 .

Clive st was just around the corner from Vaughan st & the church Tom & Mary married in .

Lancashire Birth 1899
MELIA Mary Toxteth Park Liverpool TP/408/46

1902
MELIA Winifred Toxteth Park Liverpool TP/429/19

1905
MELIA Annie Kirkdale Liverpool KIRK/140/87

1906
MELIA Nora Toxteth Park Liverpool TP/468/41

Marriage indexes 1921
MELIA Winifred QUINN Joseph Toxteth Park, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_TP/63/20

1930
MELIA Winifred RAWSTHORNE William J Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/401/85

1933
MELIA Winifred M STRODE Thomas E Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/425/8

1934
MELIA Winifred BIDDULPH Norman T Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/437/35
MELIA Winifred GROVES Henry R Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/441/18



Marriage indexes 1927
MELIA Norah MCQUILLIAMS Thomas Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/385/12

Thank you Susan , I will await the library to reopen & have a look. Ive got a feeling that Mary F Jones would be baptised in St Malachys.

Thanks Again