McAnaspie or McAnaspri or McAnaspia or..... Macsomething
Posted: 03 Jul 2010 18:34
It's One Of Those Names time again!
My apologies for this wordy intro but I have to put the problem in context and tell you what I know already.
I recently discovered that my maternal g.father was not born Thomas James Emery, a name he used all his life from the first of 3 marriages in 1899 until the day he died in 1964. Previously very elusive with regard to his birth abt 1879 he was eventually discovered by Tina in 1881 with the surname McAnaspri. His mother Mary [still married to Robert Emery] was living with a James McAnaspri and had another 3 children [all fathered by Robert according to their birth certs] with her. The whole family were McAnaspri! RG10 / 3413 / 16 / 29.
Thomas James also said his father was Robert on the 3 marriage certs! And he was still called a McAnaspie in 1891 with his 'widowed' mother.
The recent release of the Chelsea Pensioners records told me Robert had enlisted in the Army for 12 years in 1876. He lost 6 years off his age and went to New Brighton to do so, so he must have been pretty anxious to take the Queen's Shilling. The youngest of the other 3 children, Ellen, was born in 1877 while Robert was in service in Ireland and she would have been conceived around October 1876 when Robert had enlisted. So while it is possible he was the father and he is so named on the birth cert, I have me doubts! James McA died in 1890. There is no marriage for him and Mary. She died in 1901 and her legal spouse Robert didn't die until 1904.
So, the branch of my maternal tree going back via Robert Emery to 1775 has been lopped off and I am now trying to backtrack James McAnaspie [or whatever spelling there is!]. He was born about 1843 and was a slater and plasterer. I found him in 1871 as James McAnaspia married to Alice [nee Grant] who apparently died without living issue in 1875. James and Alice were married in Liverpool in 1862. They are here in 1871: RG10 / 3777 / 165 /12.
According to their marriage cert James' father was also a James McAnaspie, a plasterer. James junior is allegedly born in Liverpool about 1843 but I can't find him in 1861 or 1851, possibly because of mis-spellings or transcription errors. I have found a Thomas McA, plasterer in 1881 - RG11 / 3708 / 61 / 14; and in 1871 - RG10 / 3781 / 56 / 50. In both he is from Dublin Ireland. He's here in 1861 - RG09 / 2691 / 120 / 22 with his 'wife' Mary. Sure he married Mary Fitzpatrick Liverpool in Sep qtr 1862 because there's a Fitzpatrick sister-in-law in the household in 1871.
As yet no link with 'my' James, possibly another Irish g.g.father to add to my collection! Considering getting the marriage cert for Thomas and Mary to find father's name/occupation....
So all suggestions as to how to proceed welcome. All finds of McAnasp* also welcome, particularly if they are slaters or plasterers!
Dickiesam
My apologies for this wordy intro but I have to put the problem in context and tell you what I know already.
I recently discovered that my maternal g.father was not born Thomas James Emery, a name he used all his life from the first of 3 marriages in 1899 until the day he died in 1964. Previously very elusive with regard to his birth abt 1879 he was eventually discovered by Tina in 1881 with the surname McAnaspri. His mother Mary [still married to Robert Emery] was living with a James McAnaspri and had another 3 children [all fathered by Robert according to their birth certs] with her. The whole family were McAnaspri! RG10 / 3413 / 16 / 29.
Thomas James also said his father was Robert on the 3 marriage certs! And he was still called a McAnaspie in 1891 with his 'widowed' mother.
The recent release of the Chelsea Pensioners records told me Robert had enlisted in the Army for 12 years in 1876. He lost 6 years off his age and went to New Brighton to do so, so he must have been pretty anxious to take the Queen's Shilling. The youngest of the other 3 children, Ellen, was born in 1877 while Robert was in service in Ireland and she would have been conceived around October 1876 when Robert had enlisted. So while it is possible he was the father and he is so named on the birth cert, I have me doubts! James McA died in 1890. There is no marriage for him and Mary. She died in 1901 and her legal spouse Robert didn't die until 1904.
So, the branch of my maternal tree going back via Robert Emery to 1775 has been lopped off and I am now trying to backtrack James McAnaspie [or whatever spelling there is!]. He was born about 1843 and was a slater and plasterer. I found him in 1871 as James McAnaspia married to Alice [nee Grant] who apparently died without living issue in 1875. James and Alice were married in Liverpool in 1862. They are here in 1871: RG10 / 3777 / 165 /12.
According to their marriage cert James' father was also a James McAnaspie, a plasterer. James junior is allegedly born in Liverpool about 1843 but I can't find him in 1861 or 1851, possibly because of mis-spellings or transcription errors. I have found a Thomas McA, plasterer in 1881 - RG11 / 3708 / 61 / 14; and in 1871 - RG10 / 3781 / 56 / 50. In both he is from Dublin Ireland. He's here in 1861 - RG09 / 2691 / 120 / 22 with his 'wife' Mary. Sure he married Mary Fitzpatrick Liverpool in Sep qtr 1862 because there's a Fitzpatrick sister-in-law in the household in 1871.
As yet no link with 'my' James, possibly another Irish g.g.father to add to my collection! Considering getting the marriage cert for Thomas and Mary to find father's name/occupation....
So all suggestions as to how to proceed welcome. All finds of McAnasp* also welcome, particularly if they are slaters or plasterers!
Dickiesam
.. Your James's brother 
