Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

My hubby has an ancester who emigrated from Liverpool to USA in 1852 ((could be 1857 master of the ship The Henry Clay's writing a little flamboyant)) he appears to be single however on the 1860 USA census (( which Susan very kindly found for me)) he is married to an English woman with 3 children. I know he was single from the 1851 census in Darlington....soooo I'm wondering if ((the old romantic that I am )) perhaps they fell in love on board and the master Captain George Hill married them. If he did..would there be any records out there that may have details.

Here are the names...Cuthbert Smailes b 1826 Durham Blacksmith
Ellen no surname b 1827 England

Have checked FBMD and cannot find a marriage for Cuthbert

Thanks in anticipation... Ann

Hello Ann,
If the was a marriage at sea it would not be included in FreeBMD. However, I checked for marriages at sea from 1854 to 1860 without success. Those were the only years I could find. Also checked Consular marriages 1852 to 1860 without success as well.

Sorry!

Dickiesam

Hi Many thanks for looking it was a shot in the dark...I have realised the first child Hannah was born 1854 so possibly they met and married in Ohio which is where I find them on the 1860 USA census... I wonder do they keep marriage records.??

The search goes on...........and on..........

Regards Ann

Hello Ann,
If you have the county where you found the Smailes' family in Ohio 1860, you might find their marriage here: http://www.genwed.com/state/ohgen.htm

Dickiesam

Hi Thanks ...they do have records for Cuthbert Smailes on a pay to veiw bit concerned do you have any experience of them ...

Ann

RE: Hi Thanks ...they do have records for Cuthbert Smailes on a pay to veiw bit concerned do you have any experience of them ...

Sorry, not personally but I'm sure there has to be experience somewhere on the forum.

Dickiesam

Thank you I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and pay to view

Regards Ann

here is an Ohio marriage for Dec. 14, 1876 Nov. 26, 1876 James T Hardesty and Maria Smailes maybe a grandchild

northmeols wrote:here is an Ohio marriage for Dec. 14, 1876 Nov. 26, 1876 James T Hardesty and Maria Smailes maybe a grandchild

Hi Susan...On 1860/70/ census...there is no mention of a Maria so dont think she is one of mine...(( I suppose though ya just never know)) but thank you for looking.

Ann

A bit of a success story ...have just found Jane's (Jennie) death on the Family Search pilot site and her details gave me her mother Ellen's maiden name as Brobben... so I am happy bunny now!!!!!! Looks like I'm gonna be searching a bit longer.. ah another sleepless night

Ann

DAISYCAKES wrote:A bit of a success story ...have just found Jane's (Jennie) death on the Family Search pilot site and her details gave me her mother Ellen's maiden name as Brobben... so I am happy bunny now!!!!!! Looks like I'm gonna be searching a bit longer.. ah another sleepless night

Ann

Added later...On Hannah's death cert mother is Ellen Braden so 2 names to search now ...wondering when did Ellen emigrate??

Baptism: 6 Sep 1826 St Stephen, Astley, Lancashire, England
Elen Brobbin - daughter of Hannah Brobbin
Abode: Tyldesley Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: Wm Lister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1844, Page 111, Entry 885

Hi Sue ...I think you may be right as Ellen named her first child Hannah maybe after her mother?? I found the death of one of her sons namely John he died Washington 1914 naming his parents as Cuthbert and Ellin..there was also a mention of a military pension but unable to open that one.

Ann