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WILLCOX FAMILY

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 21:21
by lyn willcox
Hi, wondered if anyone has any information on William Herbert Willcox born abt 1897 and died abt 1964 in North Liverpool. He married Harriet Leigh in 1921 in West Derby, Lanchashire and they had 3 children: Herbert William Willcox born 1925, Edna Willcox born 1924 and Elsie Willcox born 1922. I cannot trace a birth cert for him but think he may have been born in West Derby. Can anybody please help?

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 22:16
by Hilary
If you do not already have it I suggest you get the marriage certificate of William and Harriet. According to www.lancashirebnd.org.uk they were married at St John Bootle. You may be able to look up the marriage register at Crosby Library or Liverpool Record Office or ypu can purchase the certificate either from the GRO or South Sefton Register Office. the marriage certificate will give you the couples' fatehr's names and armed with that should enable you to find William on the 1911 and 1901 census and then hopefully this will lead you to the correct birth registration.

Hilary

Ed Officer

Posted: 18 Feb 2010 23:40
by CaroleW
Hi

The 1911 index only has one William Herbert Willcox in roughly that age range but he was living in Kingston Surrey

William Herbert Willcox Sept qtr 1898 Kingston Surrey Volume: 2a
Page: 409

Baptism details as follows

William Herbert Willcox Baptism Date 6 Jan 1900 born 3.6.1898
Father Frank William Herbert Willcox occ coal labourer
Mother Minnie Willcox
Parish: St Peter and St Paul, Teddington
Borough: Richmond Upon Thames
County: Middlesex

Marriages September qtr 1892
PATFIELD Minnie Richmond S 2a 693
WILLCOX Frank William H Richmond, S. 2a 693

Some additional details sent by pm because of copyright restrictions

Posted: 18 Feb 2010 23:50
by CaroleW
I found this birth - slightly different spelling but bear it in mind for when you get the marriage cert details

William Herbert Wilcox June qtr 1898 Bethnal Green Volume: 1c
Page: 124

This is his baptism

William Herbert Wilcox Date: 3 Apr 1898 Father Joseph Wilcox occ printer
Mother Sarah Ann Wilcox
Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Marriage for parents

Joseph Wilcox Full Age occ printer
Spouse Name Sarah Ann Tombling
24 Dec 1882 St John the Baptist, Hoxton Middlesex
Father Name Joseph Wilcox occ weaver
Spouse Father Name George Tombling occ carpenter
Witnesses George & Clara Tombling

Posted: 19 Feb 2010 00:30
by Tina
Hi folks :)
The closest I can find in 1901 is Wm Hy bn 1897 living in Shenstone St WDby, father same name.
Carole's Wm H is in Kingston 1901.

Tina

Posted: 19 Feb 2010 09:21
by Hilary
Marriage certifictae definitely needed I think!

Hilary
Ed Officer

Posted: 19 Feb 2010 10:07
by MaryA
Carole has requested a look up at the Liverpool RO http://liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/phpBB ... php?t=9306 perhaps you could tag a request on and fingers crossed if anybody is visiting they might be able to spare the time to do a look up for you.

Don't forget to mention the church and the date being the third quarter of 1921 as this narrows down the search.

Posted: 19 Feb 2010 10:09
by Tina
Could Lyn post a new topic?
LRO look up marriage St John's Bootle
1921 sep qtr?

I'm not sure where Lyn lives.

Perhaps she will let us know.

Tina

Posted: 19 Feb 2010 20:33
by 42aitch
I am slipping into Liverpool before the theatre tomorrow so I will try and find time to look at this if it is there.

Eileen

Posted: 19 Feb 2010 20:39
by MaryA
Thanks for your offers Eileen, I noticed you had taken a note of both requests.

Hope you enjoy the theatre, tell us about it after.

Willcox

Posted: 19 Feb 2010 21:43
by colette
Hi this is a possibility..

1911-12ish living at 15 Caernarvon St Seaforth

we have Sydney & Sarah Jane Willcox ages 40 & 36 Sydney was born in Bristol and Sarah Jane born in Liverpool..

They have 7 children including William H born 1895-6...there is a birth reg for a William Henry in West Derby 1895..but looking on the 1901, he has totaly different parents..

It could be a case of Herbert wasnt used on his birth reg but only added when he was baptised.

1901 the family are at 48 Brismark St Everton..

There are two William H Willcox deaths in one 1964 aged 67 Liverpool North the other 1965 aged 70 Bootle.

Do you have his death cert or are you 100% sure you know the year he died and his age..

xx

Posted: 20 Feb 2010 22:09
by 42aitch
Hi Lyn

Found the marriage at St John's Church, Bootle as follows:

18.7.1921 William Herbert Willcox - 27 - Bachelor - of 61 Granville Road, Seaforth - Sugar Labourer - Father Sidney Willcox - Sugar Labourer to
Harriet Leigh - 23 - Spinster of 250 Derby Road, Bootle - Father Albert Leigh - Labourer - After Banns by George Atkinson - Vicar of St Mary's Bootle.
Witnesses - Francis James Mc Keon and Annie Willcox. All signed

Noted earlier in the same church on 30.4.1911 the Witness James Mc Keon married Annie Leigh sister of Harriet as address and father were the same.

Hope this helps as I see that Collette has found William Herbert's parents in Seaforth.

Eileen

Willcox...

Posted: 21 Feb 2010 12:19
by colette
Hi Eileen

Thought i was on right tracks with Sydney & Sarah.. you have confirmed it...


Cheers xxxx

Willcox Family

Posted: 21 Feb 2010 13:50
by lyn willcox
For those who helped on finding William Herbert Willcox, thank you so much, especially Eileen who went out of her way to look for the marriage cert of William and Harriet. The fact that him and his father were both sugar labourers fits in great as his son Herbert William Willcox worked at Tate & Lyles for many years.

I am presently living in Southern Ireland but researching my husbands family tree. Thanks again for all the help. xx

Posted: 21 Feb 2010 16:06
by 42aitch
Hi Lyn

Just checked for the marriage of Sidney Willcox and it is at Our Lady & St.
Nicolas March quarter 1890. He Married Sarah J Simpson.

Will put it on my list for the next time I go if you want the details from this, unless someone else gets there before me.

Eileen