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Walton Hospital help with possible Baby birth/death cert pls

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 11:30
by JuliaB
Hi All,

I wonder if anybody could shed some light on this death certificate for me it's for my Great Grandfathers first wife Victoria Annie Taylor nee Whitelock.

Death: 5th Sep 1920 at 107 Rice Lane - Victoria Annie Taylor - Age 20 - of 65 Argos Road Kirkdale, wife of Ernest Taylor Fitters labourer - Cause of Death: (1) Placenta Preevia (2) Shock after confinement - Signed by Ernest Taylor Widower of the deceased of 65 Argos Road, Kirkdale, Reg on 6th Sep 1920.

We wondered if she died in child birth due to her young age, but it is still not clear if she had a baby or not? did she lose the baby and went into shock or did she have the baby and then went into shock? There are so many Taylor babies registered in 1920 I wouldn't know were to start!

Does anybody know if there are any records I could search for at Walton hospital that may shed some light on this?

I have also been in contact with a Whitelock family connection who has kindly given me information on the whitelock family plot, were Victoria Taylor is buried with her family and there is no baby buried with her!!!!

My Great Grandfathers children never new that their father was married before and are so keen to find out if in fact they have another brother or sister out there!

Thank you again for your time,

Julia

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 11:46
by Katie
The child may have been stillborn so there will be no birth registration. There will be a burial but you will have to look in the cemetery records. Possibly Anfield cemetery

Thank you

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 13:13
by JuliaB
Hi Katie,

Thank you for your reply, Victoria was buried in her family plot at ford cemetery on the 09/09/1920. She is buried with her mother Mary Maud Whitelock who died 1917 and brother Charles William Whitelock Died 1920 - Victoria died 6 moths later in 1920 - the only thing is that there is no baby listed in the grave with her! If she did in fact lose the baby, would the baby be buried with her?? I don't know.

Thanks for your help,

Julia

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 13:20
by Katie
The baby may not have been buried with her. She could be in the Roman Catholic Section at Anfield were he/she will be recorded as stillborn child of Mr. and Mrs. Taylor. I cant promise anything but I will do a quick look in Anfield

Thank you

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 14:36
by JuliaB
Thank you Katie you are very kind.

Julia

Taylor

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 16:22
by colette
Hi

there doesn't appear to be any Taylor / Whitelock babies on ancestrys birth index..so its looking like she lost the baby..


xx

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 18:25
by simone
Hi

It could be that she didn't give birth at all and they both died :idea: I had an emergency caesarian as I had placenta praevia, and the inability to deliver due to the position of the placenta nearly cost my life as well as the baby's. So maybe they were too late to perfom a caesarianm she went in to shock and so they both died, baby in mum. So there would not be a birth reg.

Also my grandmother died at 8 and a half months pregnant, so baby still inside of her when buried :(

Hope you sort it out, very sad :cry:

Good Luck

Simone x

Thank you

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 19:27
by JuliaB
Thank you Colette for taking the time to look for me, you are very kind.

Thank you also Simone, I'm so glad you and baby were ok and thank you for sharing this with me! I'm so sorry that your Grandmother died whilst pregnant, so very very sad. It's now looking like this is a strong possibility for Victoria.

Thank you all again for your help, very much appreciated.

Julia

Posted: 08 Feb 2010 22:41
by jan44
:D

Hi Julia,

The records for Walton Hospital are at Liverpool Records Office.

RefNo M614 WAL
Title Walton Hospital
Date 1898-c1998
Description Records of Walton Hospital comprising:
1 Admission registers
2 Operation books
3 Tuberculosis case registers
4 Clinic registers
5 Maternity clinic register
6 Maternity registers
7 Dental clinic register
8 Medical staff minute book
9 Ward report books
10 Dangerous drugs books
11 North City Hospital mortuary book
12 Firewatchers report book
13 Residents suggestion book
13A Visitors' book
14 Minutes, memoranda, reports and correspondence
15 Training School for Nurses brochures
16 Photographs
17 Plans
18 Liverpool Regional Health Board annual reports
19 Liverpool Regional Health Board Medical Division: planning of hospital and specialist services annual reports
20 City of Liverpool Port Sanitary and Hospitals Committee reports of officers of city hospitals and institutions
21 City of Liverpool reports of the Medical Officer of Health
22 Lancaster County Council Health Division no 7 reports
23 Miscellaneous annual reports, etc. of Liverpool and other Merseyside medical organisations, and of out-county hospitals
24 Publications on medical matters
25 NHS/Ministry of Health and other government publications
26 Miscellaneous printed material
27 Bed card
28 Appointments card

AccessConditions Some of the records in this collection contain sensitive personal information. Those records containing sensitive personal information of adults are closed for 75 years. Those records containing the sensitive personal information of children or the health information of adults are closed for 100 years. This is in accordance with Section 1 (Principles 1, 2 and 7) of the Data Protection Act, 1998. Permission to consult closed records should be sought from Val Stanton (patient casenotes access enquiries), Clinical Information Services, University Hospital Aintree, Tower block, Fazakerley, L9 7AL.. Access to records not covered by the Data Protection Act will be granted to any accredited reader.

Jan