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Does any one know if the passenger lists on find my past are complete, im trying to trace twins that are supposed to have left for australia around 1946ish. they were born as janet and mary hannan in 1892 in barrow. the mother later turns up on the 1911 in lpool with 2 sons named hannan and new husband john ashurst and children to him .a family member recalls going to say goodbye to them in a big house in woolton Irene

Hi Irene
It seems odd to me that 2 women in their 50's would go to Aust especially if they had never married.
Going to join their children yes.
Perhaps you can't find them as Hannan as they had married??

Tina

Hi Irene


So sometime between Janet & Mary being born they have a brother Christopher also born in Barrow 1896, then they move to Belfast and another child is born Thomas 1898..does dad die and Elizabeth the mother remarry John William Ashurst as next child is Sarah Ellen Ashurst born Belfast 1903..then we are back to Liverpool with Beatrice being born 1906 and John William being born 1908.

1911 says Elizabeth had been married for 9 years to John William Ashurst.
Have you found a marriage for them ??

1901 they will be in Belfast..did the two girls Janet & Mary remain there ??? then come back at a later date..

there is a marriage for a Janet Hannan to a Frederick Edmondson in West Derby 1915.Walton Church.. right area as her family were living in Walton in 1911...


xx

Hello Irene,
As Tina says, they might have married.... Here's a few [1910 -1920]:

Marriages Sep 1915: Hannan, Janet to Edmondson - W.Derby - 8b - 993.
This is the only Janet.

Marriages Sep 1912: Hannan, Mary to Butt, John - Liverpool - 8b - 172.
Marriages Dec 1916: Hannan, Mary to Kinghorn, John T - W.Derby - 8b - 667.
Marriages Jun 1920: Hannan, Mary E to Lucas, Frederick C - Toxteth P. - 8b - 403.

Dickiesam

Hi

Looks like Janet Hannan & Fred Edmondson had a daughter Marjorie born West Derby 1916

wondering if this is connected..could this James be a brother of John..

Marriage 1929

HANNAN Elizabeth A - ASHURST James West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool

It would make Elizabeth 57 and there is a death for a John William Ashurst in 1921.

John W Ashurst
Death 1921

Age at death 61
Registration district: West Derby Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 301


xx

Hi

Janet & Mary's brother Thomas b Belfast 1898 was in the Army he was pensioned off.. 1915 aged 19 address 14 Gladstone Rd Walton next of kin mum Mrs Elizabeth Ashurst..

Still thinking she never actualy married John William Ashurst... and that she possibly married his brother under Hannan when John had died..


xx

Wow loads to check out. the irish connection is correct as thomas hannan father to janet and mary twins also christopher who i,m following died in ireland in 1901, but guess what i,m off to lanzarote tomorrow. so search on hold for now. and yes it seems strange two spinsters in thier late 40,s or early 50,s would go to australia but the niece of these ladies is still alive and adament they went ? so a weeks sun and then back to it. but thanks for the leads Irene

I could not find a marriage to a john ashurst so suspected no marriage, or could they have married in ireland Irene

Lucky you getting some sun

Its possible Janet and Mary's first hubbys may have died in the war.. so possible remarriages and that means new surnames doesnt it..did they have anyone overthere in OZ that they would have been visiting ??

xx

Hi Col
Great to see you back on board
You deserve some sunshine Irene after the weather you've had.
I have to Google the places you guys go to, haven't a clue

Tina

Hi Tina just bored stiff recovering.. puppy isnt helping as hes wild destroying everything and i cant bend or pick him up at the mo...

xx

Hi Just to let you know i checked out the marriage of janet hannan 1915 and bingo its the right one. a janet edmondson went to australia in 1950 but has the date of birth as 1946. so i thinki will check this out Irene