Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

I am looking for information about my grandfather George Edward Murray who lived at Brighton Terrace, Park Place, Liverpool sometime in the early 1900s. He worked as a docker on the Liverpool docks until a work injury affected his mental state and I am told he was committed to Rainhill Lunatic Asylum where he died. He is buried at Ford Cemetary alongside his wife and my brother Bobbie. I have contacted various departments, including Whiston Hospital without success. Would appreciate any information.

Hi and welcome to the forum. There are documents relating to Rainhill Hospital held at the Liverpool Record Office, Reference M614 RAI 1851-1981, although whether there would be anything about your grandfather might depend on the date of his death since there is often a 100 year closure for such documents.

You may wish to contact them and enquire http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Leisure_and ... /index.asp as they may require you to prove your relationship before you have access.

Before you do so, it would be better if you collected some facts together, such as his date of death.

There is an entry for a George E Murray Q2 1914 Liverpool 8b 54 age approx 25, but this wouldn't really fit with a death in Rainhill.

Hi all the best with your search

I looked in 1911 Gores/Kellys Directory
No Murray listed in Brighton Terrace, Tox Park
No George Murray listed under Alpha index.

1901 census has a George Murray in Tox Park, a dock labr but he's 56 yrs of age.

Any more info as Mary said would be very welcome.
Rainhill death, I think, would come under Prescot rego??

Have you details please of the Ford burial, his wife's name, year??

Cheers
Tina

Any more info as Mary said would be very welcome.
Rainhill death, I think, would come under Prescot rego??

Re that death that MaryA found, it is always possible that George Murray was committed to Rainhill but later released and died at home or in another hospital. Rainhill wasn't just a 'Lunatic Asylum'. Often patients with an incurable brain disease like epilepsy would be sent there as was one of my paternal g.g.fathers.

So we need a death cert, don't we? Or age and date from the headstone together with his wife's name her age and death date.
Dickiesam

The date of the man you discovered aged 54 who died 1914 seems to fit in with further information received recently. His(my grandfather) wife was seventy when she died in 1950. I am trying to find her christian name but I do know it was she who owned the family grave site at Ford. Both he(my grandfather) and his wife are buried in the Murray family grave along with their grandson Robert aged six. Date of death yet to be ascertained - most likely in the thirties. I know his wife was Irish and was a Doughety(unsure of spelling). She was christened in St Michael's church in Dun Lair...? where the ferry from England docked.
I telephoned Ford cemetary some years ago and was given the information you need but unfortunately it was lost in a fire some time ago. I will telephone them again in the near future and hopefully get what we need.

Hi
The death Mary listed.. 54 is the page number, his age was 25.
The wife who died in 1950 aged 70 born 1880 c Ireland.


Their grandson Robert was he also a Murray?
Tks

Tina

What you need to find his wife's name is the birth certificate of their child.

She was christened in St Michael's church in Dun Lair...? where the ferry from England docked.

Worth noting that Dun Laoghaire [Dun Leary!] will be shown in the IGI, CLDS, and records before 1920, as Kingstown.

And that name Dougherty... several spellings unfortunately. Doherty etc.

Dickiesam

Young Robert who died was a Murray
Pls can we have maiden name of Mum?
We'll have more luck backtracking to ? Mrs Murray.
Thank You.
Just to ask if you have baptism in Ireland, do you not have a first name?

Tina

Hi there do you know the names of Edwards children and what years they were born ??

xx