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Iam trying to trace where the wife of my g,g,grandfather came from.They were William Wood, from Witton cum Twambrooks, aged 20yrs, a waterman,and she was Elizabeth Pemberton, aged 20yrs, a servant, working in Newton le Willows, but not of that county. They were married at St. Elphins Church, by banns on Nov. 21 1841.
Can anybody help?
Pete Member No. 7668

Hi Pete
Love your avatar!

I'll be brief, in 1851 they are in Witton, Wm a waterman, Elizabeth 29 listed born Witton as are all their kiddies.
Her two eldest are Thomas & Martha
IGI has a baptism in Christleton of Elizabeth Pemberton, parents Thos & Martha 26/2/1820. (also Mary 1817)

1861 Wm's wife is Sarah.
Possibly Elizabeth has died, there's a gap between birth of more kiddies.

1871 census listed as Woods.

If you don't have census info, let me know & I'll post details for you.

Happy New Year
Tina

Hi, Tina,
Good to make contact again. I have the1851 census, also the IGI for Elizabeth and for Mary Pemberton. On the marriage cert. her fathers' occupation is given as Farmer., Ishould think in the Chester area. So it looks like another trip to the Chester Records Office. If you could let me have census info for 1861, I would be very grateful. Can't find anything here.
Best regards, and a happy, healthy New Year to you

Pete Member 7668
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Researching Convey Hopwood Smith Taylor, all LAN + Wood CHS

Hi Pete
Thank you for good wishes, the same to you and your family for 2010

1861 RG9/2604/42/23
I hope I have the right family??

Lime Kiln B(brow?) William Wood 34 bn Witton salt boiler
Sarah 39, Martha 17 charwoman, Thomas 15 labr, George, John, James, William, 9,7,4,1 all bn Witton
Boarder Sarah Wood 32 charwoman unm bn Witton

Tina

Could this be a possibility for the 1861 census? Sorry Tina!

1861 RG9 2672 42 30
20 Litherland Alley "Cheshire Arms"
William Wood 40 victualler and waterman bn Northwich
Elizabeth wife 30 bn Deasenham Cheshire
Betsy daughter 15 bn Northwich
Ann J daughter 7 bn Northwich
Frances daughter 5 bn Liverpool
Mary E daughter 1 bn Liverpool
Ellen Chantler 22 niece
William Chantler 11m g nephew
George Smith 34 boarder widow ship's carpenter

Just being nosey because there seem to be a lot of Wood families in the Witton/Northwich area but how do you know you have the correct family? Do you have a birth certificate for one of the children?

Ed Officer

Hi

You have said her father was a farmer on the 1841 marriage cert - but you haven't told us his name. Was it Thomas as per the IGI entries listed by Tina?

What was the name and occupation of William's father

Have you tried the Cheshire OPC website

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Thanks Carole, good pointers
I believe I've found Elizabeth Pemberton in 1841 census aged 20yrs female servant not born county.
There's a surgeon whose wife is a school mistress, lots of pupils listed & servants.
Mansion House, Newton, Winwick.
HO107/524/ Bk 14/Enum 7/Folio 27
The district of Newton would explain the reason for her marriage, in her parish at the time.

Tina

Hi, all
This Wood family in Litherland Alley IS a different family, and the ones on the 1861 census are also a different family. I have a copy of the 1841 census, and your info. is correct. I apologize for not putting parents names, William's fathers name is also William, a waterman(it was the family business) and Elizabeth's father's name was Thomas, a farmer.
The witnesses at the wedding were Joseph and Mary Pemberton, they signed with their mark, but the bride and groom could write.

Regards, Pete 7668

Thanks Pete for further info.
Wm snr as WOOD is in 1851 census same street as Wm jr (Mill St)
He's retired waterman 63 bn Witton, wife Betty 64, g/dghtr Mary Ellen 9yrs. (Mary E as WOOD in dom serv 1861)
Chat later

Tina

Edit: Added
Do you have the Wood family in 1841?

Hi, Tina,
Thanks very much for the info. Yes, I do have the 1841 census information,they are in Witton Street,
William Wood 50 Waterman
Betty/Kitty
William 20 Waterman
Margaret 17
Elizabeth 14
I am on the track of Wm. Wood Snr's forbears, but still awaiting results for Elizabeth Pemberton. Will let you know what happens.

Pete 7668

Okies Pete

Tina

Hello, all,
At last a result on my Elizabeth Pemberton query.
Education Officer, you were right, the 1861 census is the right family, but Elizabeth is forty, not thirty. She had two other daughters, who both died in 1854, whilst she was carrying Ann Jane, who was named after her two deceased sisters.
Eliizabeth was a farmers daughter from Davenham, near Northwich.
She died in 1885.
Thanks to all of you for your help, on to the next quest now!!

All the best, Pete.