Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Anyone else bored with christmas preparations, if so i,m looking for a
john marsden wilson born liverpool 1878
list of what i have found
marriage info father william wilson born 1842ish
1881 census ref rg11/3643
1911 census
william is a painter on the 1881 census and gives australia as place of birth
his marriage was possibly 1874, so no good checking incoming passenger list as they appear to start after 1878
also found a possible death for william in1898 Irene

Hi Irene,

According to the 1871 he was born in Sydney

1871 Census

RG10 piece 3797 folio 24 page 42

Living on Lamport St as a Lodger.

Sue

/wave to all

They've certainly hidden themselves well in 1891 haven't they? Can you give us the details from William's marriage please, what is Ann's name and where did they give as the addresses and do the witness names mean anything?

Thanks for swift reply
checking back its john,s marriage that my cousin has info on not williams .sorry for misinfo, I have three possibles for williams marriage. so will check them out .one in 1870 and two in 1874 ,john had 2 marriages and harriett parks was his second wife is the one i,m interested in and i have her and her father on all census,s. i just find it funny when we were sending convicts out there he came over here maybe he was a sailor who decided to stay Irene

On this website you can search for BDM in New South wales

www.bdm.nsw.au

It's an index but gives parent's names. Once you've tracked down William's marriage you should then be able to find which birth is is. The index starts in 1788 and goes to 1908. To buy a certificate costs 28 australian dollars

Ed Officer

Here's the family in 1891. Confirms William was born in Sydney.

WILSON, William - Head - Married - 49 - 1842 - Painter - Sydney, Australia.
WILSON, Ann - Wife - Married - 46 - 1845 - Liverpool, Lancashire.
WILSON, Henry - Son - Single - 19 - 1872 - Coal Rag Maker - Liverpool, Lancashire.
WILSON, William - Son - Single - 15 - 1876 - Painter Apprentice - Liverpool, Lancashire.
WILSON, John M - Son - Single - 12 - 1879 - Scholar - Liverpool, Lancashire.
RG12 Piece: 2933 Folio: 113 Page: 36
Address: 42, Collins Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire.

Dickiesam

Wow i dont know where my eyes were looking but thanks. my cousin is astounded that her great grand father was australian but she knew nothing about him. I hope to get williams marriage cert sorted, but how come the cost is so high for a birth cert in aussie, I thought dick turpin was dead but he seems to be working for the aussies Irene

Hi Irene

I thought that's what it said! If it does it makes ours look cheap!

I wonder if William's father was in the army and stationed there?

Ed Officer

I looked at the site and yes it is 28 dollars, a few possibles came up but i will see what his marr cert comes up with and the have a real good think about ordering. i,m also thinking about his fathers job but hopefully i will get the cert and all will be revealed Irene

I don 't know where my eyes were either, I didn't spot that! good one Dickiesam.

Good luck with the certificate, anybody know the exchange rate? Is it really as bad as it sounds?

Just a quick note:
Wouldn't it be better to get a birth cert for John M Wilson, one of the sons, to get the mother's maiden name instead of taking a flyer at one of the possible marriages for William's spouse Anne?

Births Jun 1878: Wilson, John Marsden - W. Derby - 8b - 261.

28 AUS dollars is around £15.40. Exchange rate about 1.813 to £1. The certs are probably gold-plated and studded with opals!
Dickiesam

I thought it would work out more than 15 pound, i still cant find them on ancestry in 1891, i dont know how to search using the ref num you gave, I have tried putting it in the keynote box , have they used abbrev ? Irene

Its been a while since I used Ancs but isn't there an Advanced Search facility where you can enter the Census Reference? Anything else you want to find about John Marsden?
Dickiesam

PS: I have edited my post above re a birth cert.

Thanks for the suggestion but i,m hoping to get the marr cert for nothing at the lro Irene

well if the Aussie certs are gold studded then some of the USA ones are printed on platinum plates... I just paid $35 for a NJ death cert

I think it's good for us here in Engalnd and Wales to know how dear BMD certificates are in other places. As I said earlier it definitely makes ours look cheap! Ours are also more accessible than in some parts of the world.

Ed Officer

Hmm maybe we do get good value after all!

Ancestry has the page missing, unfortunately the house numbers go from 38 (Archibald and Elizabeth Kay) to the top of the next page is number 46.

Hi I had some credits left on fmp so done an address search and found them, but it does make you think how many others are missing. which is annoying when we pay for a yearly subscription Irene

WOW Sue I would expect them to bring the person to me for that price Irene

I found williams marr cert but still had reservations as on the cert he had plumber, but on census he was always a painter. I then found him on the 1861 with his uncle as a painter and plumber age 19, so this has given me other relatives to follow as i would like to pinpoint when he arrived in the country. He appears with his father and brothers they were born in england, but confirms he was born sydney on one of the world tree,s on ancestry.Just seen out family after a hectic day so come on to unwind oohh its bliss Irene