Elizabeth Schofield. Crossens

Post by **bridger** » 14 Dec 2009 14:23

I've been searching for a long time for Elizabeth Schofield born c1825 Crossens/North Meols/Southport without luck. She married George Hesketh 1840's but I don't know where. I'd be grateful for any ideas or help.

Thank you

Post by **Hilary** » 15 Dec 2009 09:15

Hi

Please could you give a census entry for George and Margaret so I could see where they are living. Also why do you think she was born Crossens, North Meols Southport?

The only Margaret wife of a George of about the right age I can see in a census says born in Wigan.

Margaret was not christened at St Cuthbert's North Meols the parish church as I have the LPRS book in front of me. In fact there are no Schofield entries - it isn't a local name. This is between 1813 and 1837. Another possibility would be Christ Church Southport opened 1821. Their registers are at Lancashire Record Office.

Ed Officer

Post by **Tina** » 15 Dec 2009 09:48

Hi E.O
I thought her name was Elizabeth not Margaret?
Tks

Tina

Post by **Tina** » 15 Dec 2009 10:47

For the peepers
1871 census 15 Barber St Parr St Helens
George Hesketh 46 labr bn Pemberton
Elizabeth 49 born Crossens Lancs (Corssens)
George jnr 24 bn Ashton, Ellen 21, Elizabeth 17, Thomas 15, Richard 13 all bn St Helens.

1881 census she's listed as Betty 59 born Southport.
In Parr with George
George jr, Elizabeth & Thomas at home.

By the way she's in 1861 with George born North Meols.

Tina

Post by **Hilary** » 15 Dec 2009 16:29

Hi Tina

I must have had a senior moment.

I'll shall have another look

Hilary
Ed Officer

Post by **bridger** » 15 Dec 2009 19:29

Thanks to everyone for replying. I've been searching for a few years for this couple and I still haven't found where they were married or living before 1861. I hope you have more luck than me.

Thanks again

Eileen

Post by **Tina** » 15 Dec 2009 20:26

Hi E.O

Welcome to the club!!
The other day I typed all this stuff about Albert when it should have been Alfred

Tina

Post by **Hilary** » 15 Dec 2009 21:37

How do you know she's called Schofield? It's just it's not a local name to the North Meols area.

Ed Officer

Post by **bridger** » 15 Dec 2009 23:24

I was given the information by George's grandson (my husbands grandfather) before he died. George and Elizabeth's daughter was named Elizabeth Schofield Hesketh, so I took it as being right because everything else he told me about the family was right. I too had my doubt's and he could have been mistaken but I doubt it knowing him.

Eileen

Post by **northmeols** » 16 Dec 2009 03:08

the following marriage was in ormskirk but both bridwe and groom were from Scarisbrick which would have fallen under Northmeols parish. this the only george Hesketh with wife Elizabeth I could find....+ george Jr was born 1846.... besides Schofield is a manchester area name.

Marriage: 16 Dec 1845 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
George Hesketh - (X), Full Labourer Bachelor of Scarisbrick
Elizabeth Robinson - (X), Full Spinster of Scarisbrick
Groom's Father: George Hesketh
Bride's Father: Richard Robinson, Labourer
Witness: Robert Leatherbarrow; George Wignall
Married by Banns by: Edwin L.Blenkinsopp Curate
Notes: Groom's father deceased
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1846, Page 218, Entry 436
Source: LDS Film 1849664

Post by **Tina** » 16 Dec 2009 09:03

Hi N.M
I saw that marriage in Lancs OPC but didn't list it because of the brides surname.
1841 for George could be the key.
Are you all set for Christmas?

Warmies
Tina oxo

Post by **Tina** » 16 Dec 2009 10:06

Hi everyone

Sometimes a girls middle name is not her mother's maiden name but comes down through the family line e.g grandma as many of us have found out doing our own tree.

Here's Betty in 1891
124 Higher Parr St Parr
Betty 69 wid living on own means bn Southport
dghtr Elizabeth S Hesketh 37 single
Martha Johnson 8 grand-dau
both born St Helens.

1901 Martha Johnson 18 listed as niece accountant's clerk
of Elizabeth SCHEFIELD Hesketh 48 own means
58 Higher Parr St.

Death Elizabeth S aged 85 yrs St H 1935

Tina

Post by **Tina** » 16 Dec 2009 10:17

Just to add there is a Richard Robinson farmer in 1851 living in Crossens.(North Meols)

Tina

Post by **Hilary** » 16 Dec 2009 10:18

I think you need to get one of George and Elizabeth's children' birth certificate to find out Elizabeth's maiden name.

I also saw the Hesketh/Robinson marriage which does seem a possibility

Ed Officer

Post by **Tina** » 16 Dec 2009 12:09

Hello E.O
Which birth would you pick to order cert?
There are a number for the same name & same year.
Prescot rego?
Thank you

Tina

Post by **Hilary** » 16 Dec 2009 13:41

As Bridger is in St Helens I suggest she first checks the parish registers for any baptisms of the children. The Central Library has copies of the local churches. That way she might get a date of birth.

If that doesn't narrow the field. I would go for John aged 1 on the 1861 census and go to the St Helens register office and asks for the birth certificate of John hesketh born in 1860 in Parr the son of George and Elizabeth. Hopefully they will be able to help. I suspect this could be his birth reference March 1860 Prescot 8b 483 BUT I'd go to St Helens Registrar first in this instance.

Ed Officer

Post by **Hilary** » 16 Dec 2009 13:49

St Cuthbert North Meols

Baptism
28 October 1821
Betty daughter Richard and Ellen Robinxon labourer of Crossens

Ed Officer

Post by **Hilary** » 16 Dec 2009 14:00

From Lancashire Parish register Society volume 142 The registers of Ashton in makerfield

Baptism
16 Dec 1846 (born November 25 1846) George 1child and son of George and Elisabeth Hekseth Town Green AS (Ashton) labourer.

I'm not sure of the registration district for Ashton but it'd be Dec Q if 1846

I guess this is it
Dec Q Wigan (covers Ashton in Makerfield) volume 21 page 700. This would be the reference for the GRO. Wigan Register Office used to do certifictaes while you wait don't know if theystill do. As you have the birth date this could be a quick way round solving the mystery.

ed Officer

Post by **Hilary** » 16 Dec 2009 14:09

OK from same book as above

Ellen born 25 March 1849 baptism 20 may 1849 2 child 1 d George and Elizabeth hesketh Parr labourer

Margaret born 5 June 1851 ch. 29 june 1851 3 child 2 daughter George and Elizabeth Hesketh Parr labourer

Elizabeth Schofield bn 19 August 1853 ch 8 Sept 1853 4 child 3d George and Elizabeth hesketh Parr labourer

Thomas bn 9 Sept 18 1855 ch 21 Oct 1855 5 child and 2 son George and Elizabeth Hesketh st helens lab

You should definietly be able to get a certificate for one of the children with all these dates of bith. I'd try St helens register Office.

You also know they moved to Parr before 1849 so must be in Parr in 1851. the library may have an index for the 1851 census it's worth asking.

Ed Officer

Post by **Hilary** » 16 Dec 2009 14:35

I think this could be them in 1851 but don't know where Ellen is

HO107 2195 401
Greenoughs Row Parr
George ESCOTT H M 38 labourer
Elizabeth wife 30
George son 4
all bn Parr

ESCOTT - HESKETH maybe if the accent's different!

Ed Officer

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