death between 1897 and 1911 COOMBE

Post by **Doedoe** » 18 Oct 2009 19:31

looking for deaths of

Rosa Coombe wife of Tom Coombe in Liverpool

I know they were both alive in 1897 when their son Tom died

Rosa then disapears but husband Tom is on the 1911 census as being in Walton Workhouse aged 63
just cant get any further
thank you Doe

Post by **simone** » 18 Oct 2009 19:53

Hi Doe

What address did son Tom die at? Can't see them in 1901

do you have this possibe marriage for daughter Rosa from Lancs BMD

COOMBE Rosa SHUFFLEBOTHAM Thomas H Kirkdale, St. Mary Liverpool 2013WD/21/460 Mar q

for the peeps

1891 census
RG12; Piece: 2964; Folio 22; Page 38
151 Fountains Road, Kirkdale
Name Age
Tom Coombe 43 b Torquay Devon Labourer
Rosa Coombe 37 b Dawlish Devon
Clara Coombe 14
Richard Coombe 13 all children b Liverpool
Rosa Coombe 7
Charlie Coombe 5
William Woodcock 38 lodger

Simone x

Post by **simone** » 18 Oct 2009 20:04

Hi Doe

Mum Rosa is with daughter Rosa in 1901 at 28 Scissors Road, Kirkdale

RG13 Piece:3469 Folio:134 Page:17

SHUFFLEBOTTOM, Thomas Head Married M 25 1876 Cotton Weigher Warehouse LlanellyCarmarthenshire
SHUFFLEBOTTOM, Rosa Wife Married F 19 1882 Lpool
Lancashire
COMBE, Rosa Mother-In-Law Married F 44 1857 Dressmaker
Torquay Devonshire
COMBE, Charles Brother-In-Law M 15 1886 Messenger Liverpool
COMBE, Richard Brother-In-Law Single M 22 1879 French Polisher
Liverpool

Simone x

Post by **Tina** » 18 Oct 2009 21:58

Two good finds Simone, dghtrs marriage & the census

It's Sessions Road in Kirkdale.
I wonder why Rosa is with her dghtr & where is Tom?

Tina x

Post by **simone** » 18 Oct 2009 22:06

Tina, Could have sworn it said Scissors

hmmm yes wonder where Tom is.. The closest I could find was a Thomas J Comer aboard Ship in 1901, in Liverpool dock.. can't be him though as he is born Ilfracombe not Torquay RG13; Piece: 3415; Folio: 138

wonder if he could be in hospital/ workhouse or something, maybe only listed as T C or something

Simone x

Post by **Tina** » 19 Oct 2009 11:19

Hi Simone
I found the Thomas J Comer that was on board the ship, in FreeBMD so not our Tom...good try me dear

Do you think "our" Tom went walkabout? that's why his wife is with his dghtr?? and why he's in the workhouse in 1911 instead of being with this kiddies?

Tina

Post by **dickiesam** » 19 Oct 2009 11:27

Found these possibles in the 1911:
Institution - COOMBS, Rosina Mary - 1858 - 53 - West Derby - Lancashire.

And this one across the water...
Household - COOMBER, Rosina - 1858 - 53 - Birkenhead - Cheshire.

The ages are very close, so is Rosa really Rosina and in the same workhouse, West Derby, as husband Tom but they got her surname wrong?

Trying to find out if Rosa had other forenames, and assuming the only marriage for a Tom Coombes that I could find (to Rosa Baker - Mar 1871 - Totnes - 5b - 288) was the right one, I found this Devon birth:
Baker, Rosina Mary Briscoth - Barnstaple - 5b - 405. Possible good match for the West Derby Rosina above?

Dickiesam

Post by **Doedoe** » 19 Oct 2009 11:27

thank you Simone and Tina .and Dickiesam
the mystery deepens ,why did they all live together and where was Tom ?,their son Tom died at the Royal Hospital but mothers address was given as 26 Candia street , this is the first time 28 Sessions Rd has been mentioned , Richard (brother in law) was my g/father, Rosa Coombe was Rosa Baker before marriage, thanks again Doe

and

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Post by **dickiesam** » 19 Oct 2009 12:06

Not sure if notifications are sent out for Edits to a post so I am repeating my edit above as a separate post....

Trying to find out if Rosa had other forenames, and assuming the only marriage for a Tom Coombes that I could find (to Rosa Baker - Mar 1871 - Totnes - 5b - 288) was the right one, I found this Devon birth:
Baker, Rosina Mary Briscoth - Barnstaple - 5b - 405. Possible good match for the West Derby Rosina above?

Dickiesam

Post by **Doedoe** » 19 Oct 2009 12:23

hello Dickiesam
Rosa only had one name ,her father was William Baker and she was born in Dawlish,dont know mothers name, as far as I know she was only married once to Tom Coombe
Doe
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Post by **Tina** » 19 Oct 2009 12:45

Hi Doe
You wouldn't have Sessions Rd before as that was her daughters address.
1894 Directory for 26 Candia St has a Robert Dunn painter.

Tina

Have you the Rosa in 1861 census with her father William??

For the peeps...
Willam Baker daughter Rosina, Devon.

RG9/1465/9/11

Post by **Doedoe** » 19 Oct 2009 13:21

hello Tina

on her marriage cert she is just Rosa nothing else .how old is she on the 1861 census ?
Doe

Post by **simone** » 19 Oct 2009 22:59

This one Tina?

Bell Inn, Bratton Clovelly
William Baker 41 Innkeeper, b Bratton Clovelly, Devon
Joanna H Baker 38
Mary M Baker 12
William J Baker 11
Rosina E Baker 9 b Bratton Clovelly, Devon
Ellen M Baker 7
Edwin J Baker 5
Jessie M Baker 2
Caroline Baker 10 Mo
Amelia Smale 16

Simone x

Post by **Tina** » 20 Oct 2009 10:17

Hi folks
Simone..my apols I should have put her age as 4yrs.
How many of them are in Devon & William Bakers too??
1861 lists her birthplace as Exeter so I'm not sure if this is our lass as in
later census it states Dawlish & Torquay.
Just a shot in the dark I feel.
I've tried to find them in next census, no show except for a ROSENA listed as niece.
I'm sorry, not of much help to everyone.

Tina

Post by **simone** » 20 Oct 2009 10:47

Ok Tina thanks

thought it didn't look right

See you later

Simone x

Post by **Tina** » 20 Oct 2009 10:49

Simone....thanks Darls

Tina

Post by **Doedoe** » 09 Apr 2011 18:46

hello folkes
after a very long search I have found Tom Coombe in west derby workhouse aged 63 on the1911 census listed as widower, but no sign of his wifes death Rosa , now trying to find both of their deaths . if anyone out there can perform miracles I am in need of one
thanks for any past help you have given me
Doe 7631

Post by **MaryA** » 09 Apr 2011 19:13

Difficult I think you might have a choice for Rosa, born about 1857 (1901) or 1854 (1891) and I think you could include the Rosa in the 1911 census in the Workhouse 1858 (1911) since there doesn't appear to be a death entry prior to 1911.

Rosa D Coombes died Q2 1938 age 80 Liverpool North 8b 479
Rosina Coombes died Q1 1936 age 79 Liverpool South 8b 212

I think it would be worth your while to check out the registers of the workhouse before proceeding with death certs.

Post by **Doedoe** » 09 Apr 2011 19:19

thanks Mary ,how do I find the workhouse records ? afraid senior moments are setting in
Doe 7631

Post by **MaryA** » 09 Apr 2011 19:40

There are a variety of Workhouse Registers and Minute Books held at the Record Office, however I don't know what dates would be on microfilm or which might be held at the satellite office in Sandhills. I think Roger Hull would be best able to advise what dates are where, contact details for the Record Office http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/libraries-a ... y-history/

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