Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Hi,

I've found an individual I'm interested in enumerated as a "Scholar in the Institution" along with a great many other children.

The said institution isn't named, either on the census or the enumerator's description of his round.
I can't find reference to it in any directory I have access to.
I can't find reference to it in the forum archives - although I'm not a whizz at searching them.

So I'm asking the ultimate source of information - you guys )

Can anybody identify what this institution is please ?

Thanks

Bob

Morning Kirkdale1....had a quick google and found a reference to Liverpool Seaman's Orphans Institution established in temporary buildings in Duke Street in 1869. A possibility maybe?

Hi Bob

It is could be the industrial school. who are you looking for which enumeration district

are you looking at Ancestry, if so log in and you will see the schools listed at bottom of this link for 1871

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/lis ... e.Kirkdale

more info about the schools here

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html ... pool.shtml

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html ... pool.shtml

Pauline's looks good

Simone x

Hi Kirkdale1,
Can you post the census RG reference, Piece, Folio and Page etc. Might be able to find the start page for the particular enumeration.
Dickiesam

Hi,

The piece I'm looking at is RG10/3777, Liverpool St Thomas District 11.

I think Pauline may have come up trumps.

The individual I'm interested in is James Bell Smith (groan), parents Susan nee Musker and Robert Scott McGregor Smith. He is enumerated as sailor in the 1861 census.

The 1871 census enumerator has the following in the address "prior to 128 (Duke Street) gas offices in course of erection" but no mention of the name of the institution.

Cheers

Bob

whoops, I meant to say Robert McGregor Smith is enumerated as a sailor in 1861.

Bob, worth googling "Liverpool Seaman's Orphan's Institution". A few hits with info. Chambre Hardman one looks good. I bet there are records hiding somewhere too!
Pauline.

Hi again,
With 182 'households' listed in Duke Street in the 1871 census, knowing the Folio and Page numbers, in addition to the Piece #, would cut down the search time considerably. Unfortunately they were omitted in your post. Could you complete the census page reference:
RG10 - Piece 3777 - Folio ?? - Page ??.
Thanks,
Dickiesam

Sorry Dickiesam

3777/Folio 127/Page 11.

Just come back from lunch with daughter who's off to Afghanistan this week so probably had a bit to much fizzy stuff to read messages properly )

Thanks

Bob

Hi Bob
It was the Seaman's Orphanage Institution, for deffo,
Mrs Mary McGregor was the Matron in 1873.

(friends from Garston here in March, I found their ggpa living there)

Tina

Edit sorry to forgot to add, friends 2 older boys in the home, their mother was alive with 3 younger kiddies.

There's a death for a Robert Scott Smith aged 33yrs Lpool rego in 1st qtr 1867.

(1861 bn 1834 Scotland)

Tina

Thanks Tina. That's very helpful.

Cheers

Bob

PS I knew you knowledgeable lot would come up trumps

I found this by doing a search on 128 Duke Street Liverpool, very interesting!!

http://www.victorianturkishbath.org/0PI ... arry_w.htm

Jan