Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

please how can i get the age of this soldier who died in 1915 in france. thank you kathleen.

Is this Serjeant Patrick Martin 9199 who died on 25/9/1915, oh that anniversary is today, (I'll say a little prayer for him) and commemorated on the Loos Memorial?

Details from the Medal Card
Victory H/2/101 B4 Page 474
British " "
15 Star H/2/4B Page 137
Qualifying Date 27/4/1915
Theatre of War - France

Number at bottom of Card E/164332/4

I hope some of our military experts will be able to help you, meantime do you know his parents names as this might help find him in the censuses?

dear marya that was so nice! thank you .hes mothers name was margaret
and father name patrick. kathleen

Hi Kathleen
In 1901 census there is a Patrick Martin 47 labr with wife Margaret A 42, son Patrick 10 all bn Lpool.
Living in 11 ct, 4 house, Douro Rd Everton.
Parents may have married late in life?
1891 Patrick is 5mnths old, also Mary listed as 13 but she only be 3yrs old?
Patrick snr is 36, Margaret A 39?.

I'm sorry, I don't know if these are the parents of your Patrick from WW1.

Tina

Sgt P. Martin of the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment - his name is among the many inscribed in the Hall of Remembrance, in Liverpool Town Hall.
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yes thank you tina they are his parents. dont you think thats very young to be a sergeant,
thanks daggers i will look at that in the town hall.kathleen

i was trying to post an answer this morning but my internet went down.

There may be another Patrick Martin who was a 13 year old at the time of the 1911 census and from the index I was able to discover that the family were living somewhere in the Scotland Road area and his parents are Patrick 38, Margerate 32, and siblings Bridget 10, and Mary Ann 6.

Do these names mean anything to you from family stories?

Bridget's birth was given as Liverpool, so it's possible they were here in 1901, however Patrick and his parents had Ireland for a birthplace.

hi marya. no mary I think it is the douro rd everton one that Tine found,i have just read it agan and if mary is 3 and not 13 then that is my family.
he was margaret 2nd husband.thanks for all the help kathleen