Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

This is a bit of a long shot!

I have recently been advised that the SOLOMONS in my tree were originally called SALAMANCA and came from Russia.

I have got them as far back as 1841 Ellen Solomon age 20 servant in Rupert Street. Her father was Owen Solomon (mariner) who married Ellen Griffiths in Gt Crosshall Street Independent. Ellen Snr came from Carnarvon. (Additional question - was the above church mainly used by the Welsh? I wondered why they would go there and not St Nics?)

The elderly lady who gave this info was adamant that it was correct but its news to me. My Mum used to make a reference to an "Uncle Sol" and said they were Jewish. I wonder whether they decided to use one of their first names as a surname.

Any one any comments and has any one any info on early Russian settlers in LIverpool? Some of the Solomons were living in LLanbeblig so assumed they were all Welsh? Does anyone know if Solomon is a WElsh name?

Cheers

J

Jean,

I found this info on the name Solomon.

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Solomon.html

I think the church was a Welsh church, I think it would have been the brides parish church rather than the groom's that they would have married in.

Jan

is this your bunch


owen solomon

B: wales
elenor griffith

B: wales

Children Name Birth Death

owen solomon

william solomon
1817 ; llanbeblig caernorvan wales


jane solomon
1820 Liverpool, Lancashire, England

other children

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles


OWEN SOLOMON Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 JUN 1815 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales

Parents:
Father: OWEN SOLOMON Mother: ELEANOR

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C090391 1813 - 1818 0104560 Film 1238682 Film
C090391 1819 - 1839 0104560 Film NONE
C090391 1840 - 1868 0104562 Film NONE
C090391 1868 - 1875 0104563 Film NONE


HUGH SOLOMON Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 MAR 1813 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales

Parents:
Father: OWEN SOLOMON
Mother: ELLIN

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C090391 1813 - 1818 0104560 Film 1238682 Film
C090391 1819 - 1839 0104560 Film NONE
C090391 1840 - 1868 0104562 Film NONE
C090391 1868 - 1875 0104563 Film NONE


WILLIAM SOLOMON
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 APR 1817 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales

Parents:
Father: OWEN SOLOMON
Mother: ELEANOR

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C090391 1813 - 1818 0104560 Film 1238682 Film
C090391 1819 - 1839 0104560 Film NONE
C090391 1840 - 1868 0104562 Film NONE
C090391 1868 - 1875 0104563 Film NONE

Solom, Solomons, Soloman Salaman and Salomon can all be Jewish Surnames. If you google Jewish Surnames you get lots of sites with lists of Jewish Surnames.

Solom could also be used by a non Jewish religious family as it's a Biblical name.

The use of a first name of Owen (defintely Welsh) would indicate to me that if there was a Jewish connection it was many many years ago.

the other thought I had was that Salamanca is a place in Spain. Could there have been a Spanish sea connection?

You would need to work backwards in Wales to see what else you can dig up.

Ed Officer

Great Crosshall St Chapel appears to have been Welsh Baptist apparently there were 2 Welsh chapels in the Street. Again Googling the chapel produced quite a lot of sites about the Welsh in Liverpool.

Ed Officer

son Owen's marriage

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Owen Solomon
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 171

Sorry Susan, a link to Ancestry won't give them any information if they don't have a subscription.

didn't think...sorry....lots on my mind today

Hi All
1854 Directory Gt Crosshall St has
Welsh Chapel, next first house number 1.
At number 56 it just states Baptist Chapel.

Tina

Thank you,everyone for all your research and helpful comments.

I am off to do some more investigations.

Cheers

Jean