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Louisa Sophia Jane Thorpe
Posted: 11 Jul 2009 15:22
by kwr
A minor enquiry....
I have this lady, my great great grandmother pretty well pinned down from her birth in 1849 via census records, certificates and even photographs until her death in 1937. However in the 1911 census I note she has a new address:-
8 Lampeter Rd.
Babbage Hall.
Liverpool.
She is living in a six roomed house. I've never heard of Babbage Hall (though I know of Charles Babbage) and wonder if it is poshish? As the widow of an unemployed plasterer I'm a bit surprised.
Anyone any knowledge of it?
Ken
Posted: 11 Jul 2009 15:56
by daggers
Are you sure it is Babbage and not Cabbage? There is a Cabbage Hall pub in the Anfield area probably not far from Lampeter Road.
D
Louisa Sophia Jane Thorpe
Posted: 11 Jul 2009 16:45
by kwr
Daggers - I'm mortified.
After your question I went back, blew it up to a vast size (she scrawls rather) and it IS Cabbage Hall.
I was able to check because elsewhere one of the sic worked in a Cycle Shop and the scrawl was very similar. I was fortunate as well because when the final column asks for nationality my proud ancestor and boldly scribbled on the six spaces available the simple message:#
All True British.
So I could see a big B and it wasn't like Cabbage.
As usual I manage to demonstrate my own inability to walk and chew gum at the same time. Thanks for the rapid reply but was it a good area? Are there houses still there or as I expect demolished?
Ken
Posted: 11 Jul 2009 17:23
by MaryA
http://www.pub-explorer.com/merseyside/ ... nfield.htm for a still pic.
But if you go to
www.maps.google.co.uk and enter l4 2rb you can choose "street view" and turn to the right a little along the road and you will see the Cabbage Hall on the left of the street.
Right opposite on Breck Road is Oban Cycles, which has been there for as many years as I can remember - but I can't promise it would have been when the censuses were taken!

Posted: 11 Jul 2009 18:11
by PJLong
Oh Ken...thank you SO much for that one.............I howled laughing! Did me the world of good. Maybe we should gather together all our "funnies" (for want of a better phrase) Yours is definitely a true classic! Cheers, Pauline.
Posted: 11 Jul 2009 20:08
by LindaS
This is weird. I'm just having a break from transcribing & have a read of the latest posts on here.
One of the Baptisms I was transcribing had the abode as Cabbage Hall.
I'd never heard of it so had a "google" & found the Cabbage Hall pub. On their website though it says the building dates back to the early 1900's but I'm transcribing 1847. Would it be the same pub or would it have been a new one built there over 50 years later?
Posted: 11 Jul 2009 21:01
by MaryA
The building that is there at present, as can be seen in the link I gave above, is certainly not an 1840's building, in fact I doubt it's as old as 1900 but Cabbage Hall (Inn) is marked in the same place on an 1851 map.
Posted: 11 Jul 2009 23:00
by daggers
'Cabbage Hall' appears as the district on a recent AZ Guide and the pub was among the official licensed premises in 1909 as 'Cabbage Hall Hotel'.
D
Louisa Sophia Jane Thorpe
Posted: 12 Jul 2009 10:35
by kwr
So MANY helpful comments. Thanks to all of you.
Glad to have made you laugh Pauline. As an aside my wife has found in her tree someone who has insisted on thr enumerator writing under the Condition column - "Chosen". So she was either one of tghe Elect or was dead chuffed at becoming engaged!
Ken