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Thomas JOLLIFFE
Posted: 03 Jul 2009 21:00
by Peter Jolliffe
I suppose it's time I asked a question from you clever lot.
Trying to find any info on Thomas JOLLIFFE a toll collector in Byrom Street. I know he was living in Dale Street in the early 1800s then in Byrom Street and disappeared in 1814 from Gores but that's it.
Any ideas where next ?
TA and enjoy the sunshine.
jolliffe
Posted: 03 Jul 2009 21:26
by Doedoe
hello Peter
there is a James Jolliffe listed in 1832 poll book living in Shaws Brow he was a matteress maker ,hope this helps
Doe
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Posted: 03 Jul 2009 21:50
by MaryA
Liverpool Mercury
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries
Friday, February 2, 1827; Issue 819
DIED
On Monday last ......
Same day, at Chester, Margaret, wife of Mr Thomas Jolliff late Toll Collector of this town.
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My interpretation would be that "of this town" refers to Liverpool rather than Chester.
Posted: 03 Jul 2009 21:55
by MaryA
Sorry, tried all spellings but can't find an entry for the death of Thomas.
Posted: 03 Jul 2009 22:06
by Peter Jolliffe
Hi Doe,
James was Thomas' son.
Mary how come I couldn't find that death......... grrrrrr.
But thanks a million, Thomas must have died before Margaret as the obituary says "late TJ"
TA to both of you
Posted: 03 Jul 2009 22:16
by MaryA
Peter Jolliffe wrote: Thomas must have died before Margaret as the obituary says "late TJ"
Yep I would think so, at least it gives you a time frame but not necessarily a place. They could both have moved to Chester after Thomas finished working as Toll Collector in Liverpool.
Seems like you'll have to spread your net a bit wider.
PS Newspaper searches are a pain, they find what you don't want mostly, but to find what you do want you have to try all spellings, would you believe there are mentions of Jolliffe, Jolliff, Joliffe, Jollife, Joliff, Jollif etc.
Posted: 04 Jul 2009 04:24
by Tina
Hi folks
Cheshire Parish Register Project for St Johns Chester
has Margaret as Jolliffe 66 wid kin Thomas a brazier St Olave St Chester.
Tina
Posted: 04 Jul 2009 07:20
by MaryA
Well the date has to be the clincher on that one since Thomas's occupation would have put us off! Hope you find a grave Peter.
Posted: 04 Jul 2009 19:02
by Peter Jolliffe
Hi Tina,
would you believe it Thomas was a brazier before he became a toll collector.
Many thanks for your help. It's off to Chester ASAP
Posted: 05 Jul 2009 09:01
by Tina
Good news Peter, I nearly didn't bother to post the info because of his occupation...
I know...never assume.
Cheers
Tina
enjoy your Sunday folks.
Posted: 05 Jul 2009 09:16
by MaryA
Even better confirmation!
Don't forget we want to see a piccie Peter.
Posted: 05 Jul 2009 12:28
by Dorothy Evans
For what it's worth I'd say that Thomas Jolliffe was still alive when Margaret was buried in Chester in 1827.
The Cheshire Parish Register project in fact describes her as the wife of Thomas Jolliffe, not his widow.
And the Liverpool Mercury obituary describes Thomas as late Toll Collector of this town, not the late Thomas Jolliffe.
Had Margaret been widowed then in the terminology of the day she'd probably have been described as 'relict' of Thomas Jolliffe.
Dorothy