Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Can anyone say where this lane was, please? It must have been close to Rose Lane and is referred to in a legal document of 1841. That is how it was spelled, but Aigburth was spelled Aigburgh!
Daggers

Hi Daggers,

I had a look in the 1841 Street index (on CD) and there is nothing coming up with that name.

I will have another look round.

Jan

Thanks, Jan. I shall look at the Garston Tithe map on my next Lpl RO visit.

As a side isue can I suggest that

LRO

should mean Lancs, and Lpool or Lpl or similar for the city?
D

Hi Daggers
Good idea the usual abbreviations are
LRO - Lancashire Record Office
LIVRO - Liverpool Record Office

I think the 1st edition 1840s 6 in to the mile map of the area might help. They have them at LIVRO.

Ed Officer

Thanks- I'll use Liv RO in future.
I have found another, later spelling of Hogginson's Lane - with the extra 'g' - in 1855. This also refers to the nearby farm house occupied by a Mr Atherton Green, which could help to pinpoint the area. Does he appear in the 1851 census, please?

PS: I have looked at the OS 6" 1st edition - no Hog[g]inson's Lane visible.
D

Hi Daggers

Not yet found Atherton in 1851 but

1841 just listed under Allerton
1861 farmer 130 acres AllertonRoad
1871 Greenhill Rd farmer 56 acres employing 5 men
1881 census Green Hill Road West Farm retired farmer. This is between Acrefield and Red House

Could Green Hill Road have once been Hoginson's Lane?

Nothing to do with your search but my mum was born in Greenhill Avenue Allerton only she used to say she was born in Calderstones!

Ed Officer

Atherton Green age 52 with his brother George age 57 and a couple of servants are living on Allerton Road in the 1861 census. He is a farmer of 130 acres employing 6 men, born Lancaster Aughton, District of St Mary Grassendale and George was a Surveyor with the same birthplace.

Hi

1851 down as John A Green the order is

Calderstones
Calderstones Lodge
Calderstones Lodge
Allerton John A Green farmer of 56 acres etc (I'm pretty sure it's him as ther's a George with him who appears on other census.)

Ed Officer

Hi

Found this on a google

The National Archives | Access to Archives ALLERTON -- Diversion of part of road from Aigburth to Calderstones QSD/1/125 1862 .... ALLERTON AND GARSTON -- Diversion of footpath from Hogginson Road to ...

It was still there in 1862 grr!!!

Ed Officer

This is the Description of the Enumeration District for 1861

The whole of the Township of Allerton, including Calderstones, adjoining Woolton road on the east, to Mr Pilkington's farm on the south, where it joins Speke to Mr Atherton's Farm on the South West, where it joins Garston to the boundary of Wavertree on the North.

For alteration as to part in Much Woolton see issue? marked by it's ??
Ecclesiastical District St Michael's Chapel, Garston
" St Anne's
" St Mary's Grassendale.

Could this "Mr Atherton" be Atherton Green?

Judging by the census entry in 1861, it would appear that the farm is in the St Mary's Grassendale area, does this help any?

Great stuff! Many thanks for all that. Yes, the name of 'Mr Atherton Green' & his farm crops up as one of the markers for the boundaries of St Mary's, Grassendale, when its district was defined.

EDITED to add: found the brothers Green in 1881, farm called West Farm, Green Hill Road, etc. Thanks again.

Now to find a flat surface so that I can unroll my OS map and plot things in on a trace!
D