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Hi ~

Must admit to feeling a bit embarrassed about asking a complete stranger to do a look-up on my behalf, but here goes ...

I have 2 relatives buried in the same grave in Anfield cemetery, and I'd like to locate the plot so that I can arrange a visit. (apparently there's a headstone).

The first burial was Fanny Armstrong Irving. She died on the 19th February 1868. In the same grave is her grand-daughter Lily Armstrong McQuinn who died before reaching her 1st birthday (I don't have her exact d.od, but it was in 1881).

I can't tell you how grateful I'd be if someone could find the index to the plot for me in the Liverpool Record Office

Bestest,
ZED.

Hi Zed,

This could be Lily's death registration.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Lily Armstrong McQuinn
Name: Lily Armstrong McQuinn
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 248

Jan

I dont know when i,m going next but will have a look, what religion were they this would help narrow down the search Irene

Hi Irene ~

They were C of E.

Bestest,
Paula.

Hi Paula The section is c/e 1 and grave number 1003.when you go to the cem thier is a map at the entrance to give a rough idea, but the sections are not easy to identify.some of the graves have the section and number on the back of the stone. If there are any gardeners around they will point you in the right direction.
Also if you ring or write to the main lodge at allerton with the section and number they will tell you how many are in the grave, the funeral was arranged by john irving senior and it cost him £1 16 shillings and it was a half purchased grave. good luck Irene

Oh Irene, that's MARVELOUS! Thank you SO much (I hope I didn't take up too much of your time and I hope you were as successful with your other searches).

Thanks also for your tips re: finding the grave.

How amazing that the details of the plot purchase are recorded ... but what does "a half purchased" grave mean?

Bestest,
Paula.

jan44 wrote:

Hi Zed,

This could be Lily's death registration.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Lily Armstrong McQuinn
Name: Lily Armstrong McQuinn
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 248

Jan

Many thanks for that Jan ~

I wonder whether it's worth buying a death cert for an infant? I'm thinking that as so many babies died in those days that probably not too much effort went into discovering the cause of death?

Bestest,
Paula.

My gg uncle bought a half grave for my gg grandfather and i was expecting to find my gg grandmother in the same grave, but it appears that another uncle must have purchased the rest at a later date as all his family are in it which filled it to capacity.but i do wonder if a stranger could have bought the other half if my other uncle hadn,t Irene

Hi Irene ~

Grave-sharing would certainly make sense in the case of the Irving family as they were very poor ... in fact I was rather surprised to find that there was a headstone.
I found documents in the Lancs Record Office relating to a court case where The Overseers of The Poor in Everton attempted to get the family moved back to where they came from (Bury) rather than letting them be a drain on Everton's Poor Relief!


But there are plans nowadays to allow people to pay for their burial plots by installments (or perhaps that's just here in Southport?)

Bestest,
Paula.

I think ill go in the garden Irene

Would do the plants a power of good