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I am researching the family of Edward Thoma STRANGE b 1829 Cardiff GLA Wales d. 1887 Liverpool m Rebecca Ovens b 1830 Liverpool
dau Mary Ellen b Dec 1853 m 21 Jan 1877 William Backhouse b 1853
d 1920 Liverpool
John Owens b Oct 1855 m Seot 1879 Elizabeth Ann Bennion b 18 June
1858 West Derby
Elizabeth b 1859 Liverpool m 1899 at Holy Trinity Toxeth Park Liverpool
Charles Pycroft.
Any information would be appreciated
Thank you
Paul Willson

Hi

Do you already have this entry from the IGI?

EDWARD THOMAS STRANGE Christening: 20 OCT 1829 Saint John And St Mary, Cardiff Father: JOHN STRANGE Mother: ELIZABETH

To avoid any duplication of information - do you already have all available census entries for the people listed above

Hi theres mention of an Edward Strange as one of the Church Wardens for Holy Trinity Toxteth being re elected in the 1880s..In the Liverpool Mercury..

This could be your man..he could have any job but also do this..unless theres another Edward Strange in the parish ?


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Off topic
Please let me share this with you.
I've just had a good chuckle, Edward is a journeyman sawyer in 1851 lodging in Tox Park.
I had a contact quite a few years back who had John 21 lawyer, living in the Forest of Bowland, father woodsman.
They asked where would he have studied to be a lawyer and qualified so young. Hello??
What a put down for them when I explained he was a sawyer.
Ho Hum.
Thanks

Tina

colette wrote:Hi theres mention of an Edward Strange as one of the Church Wardens for Holy Trinity Toxteth being re elected in the 1880s..In the Liverpool Mercury..

This could be your man..he could have any job but also do this..unless theres another Edward Strange in the parish ?


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Colette
Thank you for looking and the answer is maybe . By 1880 he would have been 51 so maybe thats possibly. Thanks for information
Paul (member #7797)

CaroleW wrote:Hi

Do you already have this entry from the IGI?

EDWARD THOMAS STRANGE Christening: 20 OCT 1829 Saint John And St Mary, Cardiff Father: JOHN STRANGE Mother: ELIZABETH

To avoid any duplication of information - do you already have all available census entries for the people listed above

CaroleW
I have that information but nothing else on this family
Thank you for looking this out
Paul (member #7797)

Does that mean that you DO or you DON'T have the censuses. Best to say so before they all go for their look ups!

Hi

The 1841 for Monmouth has an Edward Strainge (indexed as Straings) aged 9 living in a household that has nobody else of that surname. He is shown as not b Monmouth

HO107; Piece 747; Book: 2; Folio: 6; Page: 5

In 1851 he is in lodgings in Toxteth Liverpool

Jane Burden 43 b Almwych Wales - lodging house keeper
Susanna Burden 15 b Liverpool
Edward Strange 22 lodger b Cardiff journeyman sawyer
William Downey 40 lodger b Edinburgh
HO107; Piece: 2186; Folio: 249; Page: 12

1861 for 1 Bedford Rd Liverpool - all b Liverpool except Edward

Edward Strange 31 b Cardiff Glamorgan - beerseller and also ??? could be journeyman
Rebecca Strange 32
Mary E Strange 8
John O Strange 5
Elizabeth Strange 3
Jane Kay 21
RG9; Piece: 2697; Folio: 66; Page: 1; GSU roll: 543014.

A parents search on the IGI shows the following children also born to John & Elizabeth Strange

MARY ANNE STRANGE Christening: 07 SEP 1831 Saint John And St Mary, Cardiff

ELIZABETH STRANGE Christening: 09 APR 1834 Saint John And St Mary, Cardiff

In 1841 Mary Strange is living in Cardiff possibly with a William & Ann Williams

Entry as follows - all b Glamorgan

William Williams 33
Ann 29
Elizabeth Mary 10
Ann 9
Mary 5
Miriam 2 and a half
Eleanor 1 month
Mary Strange 10
HO107; Piece 1425; Book: 6 Folio: 7; Page: 7

Possible death for John

Deaths December qtr 1838

John STRANGE Merthyr Tydfil 26 207

1871 not many of them at home

26 Beaufort Street, Toxteth Park
Edward Strange Head M 41 Sawyer Wales
Rebekah Wife M 42 School Matron Liverpool
Elizabeth daur 12 Scholar Liverpool
RG10; Piece: 3795; Folio: 68; Page: 21

There is this marriage on Lancs BMD but at the moment - I can't find a census entry

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
STRANGE Mary A FERGUSON Douglas Toxteth Park, St. John The Baptist Liverpool 2108TP/2/269

I'm wondering if this is Mary E in 1871

Training College, Warrington
Mary E Strange Inmate Unm 18 Queen's Scholar Lancashire Liverpool
RG10; Piece: 3906; Folio: 63; Page: 12

You can search the 1881 census yourself but I think this might be the entry for the Backhouses

91 Upper Stanhope Street, Toxeth Park
William Backhouse Head M 27 Liverpool Pilot Lancashire Liverpool
Mary E Wife 28 Liverpool
William E son 1 "
/
Elizabeth Pycraft Wife M 22 "
RG11; Piece: 3635; Folio: 39; Page: 11

There are records for the Liverpool Pilots in the Maritime Museum

MaryA wrote:You can search the 1881 census yourself but I think this might be the entry for the Backhouses

91 Upper Stanhope Street, Toxeth Park
William Backhouse Head M 27 Liverpool Pilot Lancashire Liverpool
Mary E Wife 28 Liverpool
William E son 1 "
/
Elizabeth Pycraft Wife M 22 "
RG11; Piece: 3635; Folio: 39; Page: 11

There are records for the Liverpool Pilots in the Maritime Museum

Dear Mary
Yes this my William BACKHOUSE thanks just the same for looking
all the best
Paul (member @7797)

Carol
Thank you for your 4 messages . the 1851-61-71 Census are my STRANGES . as for 1841 unsure but it gives me something to look at
in Glamorgan . Thanks for your interest & help.
all the best
Paul)member #7797)

So can you clarify what it is you need.

MaryA wrote:So can you clarify what it is you need.

Dear Mary;
At this time I am unsure I need anything beyond what has been sent to me.This data plus known information has firmed up my lines.
For my STRANGE line I would like to find out marriages of the children . Thank you for your interest and help .
Paul (member @7797)

1881
19 Treborth Street, Toxteth Park
John O Strange Head M 25 Pilot Lancashire Liverpool
Eliza A Wife M 22 " "
RG11; Piece: 3647; Folio: 18; Page: 29

1891
32 Cawdor Street, Toxteth Park
All born Liverpool, Lancashire
John Owens Strange Head M 35 Seas Pilot
Elizabeth Wife M 32
Eliza A daur 6
Rebecca daur 4
Albert V son 3
Marie daur 4 months
RG12; Piece: 2936; Folio 39; Page 9

1901
140 Windsor Street, Toxteth Park
All born Liverpool Lancashire
John O Strange Head M 45 Pilot Seas
Eliza A Wife M 40
Eliza A daur 16 Pupil Teacher
Rebecca daur 14
Albert V son 13
Marie daur 10
Elizabeth daur 8
RG13; Piece: 3433; Folio: 137; Page: 7

Albert V Strange married Ann Shaw Toxteth Park, Holy Trinity Q3 1916 8b 227
Rebecca Strange married Nathaniel H Lawrensonn Toxteth Park, St. Michael Q3 1913 8b 349

Possible
Eliza A Strange married Arthur F Dodd 1920 Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended

Another possible, although she would be 41 when she married
Marie Strange married Roderick D Macintyre Wavertree, Holy Trinity 1931.

Maybe not since Marie isn't at home with the family in 1911, but I don't see a death either.