Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

plese could you help I am new to this forum and family history.
im reseaching the family of james guthrie who married Annie kelly in1906 i think they live in everton liverpool.
thank you kathleen.

Hi Kathleen,

Welcome to the forum. Could you provide us with more details please, like parents names, and siblings etc.

Also Can I advise that you don't use your email address as a log in name

Sue

hi sue thanks for your quick reply. as far as i know he was born in 1877 .
and he married annie kelly in LIverpool.and thats all i know.
how do i change my log in name?also looking for worthington john born 1858 liverpool married maryann duffy.
thank you kathleen/

Hi kathleen.

I think it would need to be changed in your profile, not too sure.

Sue

Oops just looked in my profile and doesn't look like it can be amended, hopefully Mary will be able to let you know.

Sue

1891 census

GUTHRIE
Isabella Head Widow c1844 Housekeeper born Scotland
Margaret Daughter Single c1869 Confectioner born Liverpool
Janet Daughter Single c1871 Confectioner born Liverpool
Beatrice Daughter Single c1875 Greengrocers Assistant born Liverpool
James Son Single c1877 Railway Employee born Liverpool

MCGREADIE, Mary Visitor Single 1866 Dressmaker born Scotland
HENMAN, James Boarder Single c1859 Labourer born Scotland

1, Monk Street, Everton, Liverpool


RG12 2955 112 9

Sue

Hi Kathleen,
I agree with Dominex that you should definitely change your log-in name but you can't do it in your Profile. I'd send a PM (private message) to a moderator, MaryA, asking for advice. You can contact her by PM by clicking her name under the Liverpool heading on the opening page of the forum.

Re James Guthrie etc, have you got the marriage cert for himself and Annie Kelly? That will give you respective ages and father's names. With that info you can then 'trawl' the censuses and FreeBMD, and get help from the folk on this forum.
Good luck.

On the 1881 his mother is also down as a widow, and there's another sister, Isabella born c1879 Liverpool.

128, Friar St, Everton

Sue

1871 census

Lance Street, Everton, Liverpool

Father James Guthrie c1845 Scotland House Carpenter

Sue

1868 marriage March quarter 8b 523

GUTHRIE James HENRY Isabella Everton, St. Peter Liverpool 2085WD/3/159

Maybe skp can look up this marriage next time they are at the LRO find out who their parents were.

Unfortunately you will have to send off for the marriage cert of James and Annie as it was registry office.

GUTHRIE James P KELLY Annie A West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/230/5

Birth 1876 September quarter GUTHRIE James W. Derby 8b 378

Sue

Hi,
Marriages Jun qtr 1879:
DUFFEY - Mary Ann to John Worthington; GRO ref = Liverpool - 8b - 188;

From 1881 census:
WORTHINGTON, John -Head - Warehouseman - bn 1858 - Liverpool;
WORTHINGTON, Mary Ann - Wife - bn 1861 - Bolton, Lancashire;
WORTHINGTON, Catherine - dtr - bn - 1880 - Liverpool;
SCRUNTON, Christopher - Lodger - Widower - bootmaker - bn 1813 Kan?sbro, Yorkshire.

Address: 3, Crt 1h Redmond Place, Liverpool

RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3630 Folio:
143 Page:
27

Cheers,
Dickiesam

Christenings:-

Janet Guthrie - International Genealogical Index
01 JUN 1870 St Peter, Everton, Lancashire, England

Margaret Jannet Guthrie - International Genealogical Index
16 DEC 1868 St Peter, Everton, Lancashire, England

Beatrice Guthrie - International Genealogical Index
14 JUN 1874 Everton, Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Isabella Guthrie - International Genealogical Index
02 JUN 1872 Everton, Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Sue

Hi Kathleen and welcome to the forum.

I sent you a pm shortly after you joined the forum, as I thought maybe before you posted would be the best time to deal with a change of name.

I think you would now be best to contact Peter Joliffe our Administrator, you will see the link to his name on each of the boards, and ask if there is anything he is able to do.

dear sue how did you do all that in such a short time?
i am a amateur and do need to go and join one of the family history class in liverpool.that will be my next job, I would like to know how you find out about the christening ,i will send for the marriage cert and with all your help i will find this history so thank you all agin.
ps just join findmypast. kathleen :

1901 census 1 Monk Street Everton. RG13/3476 folio 55a page 13

James is with his mother Isabella and his widowed sister Beatrice Cornwall, she has two young children.

I think this could be Beatrice's marriage.

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1893
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GUTHRIE Beatrice CORNWALL Walter W Everton, St. Chrysostom Liverpool 2095WD/5/26

Jan

Hi Kathleen,

When you've been trying to find things for as long as I have, you get to know the sites to look at Mind you it's only been about 5 years for me, and I still forget to look places

I was with ancestry until last month, when they changed their subscriptions. I'm using find my past now, which I'm still trying to get used to.
The christenings I got from http://www.familysearch.org
There's a list of useful websites in another section of this forum. I'm sure you'll have fun checking some out

Sue

Just out of curiosity, did James and Annie name any of their children with the names of this James's siblings, because the only way of knowing if this is him for definate, would be to order the marriage cert of James and Annie and find out his Father's name and occupation and address, and witnesses.

If it is the right James, then hopefully someone may be able to look up the marriage of is parents, James Guthrie and Isobella Henry.

Sue

here are some sites you might want to bookmark for future reference

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

http://www.familysearch.org/

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Hi Kathleen

I checked the Guthrie-Henry Marriage for St Peter's Parish Church Mar quarter 1868 and could find no trace of it. I did however find the Cornwall-Guthrie Marriage as follows:

St Chrysotom's
29.10.1893 Walter William Cornwall - 23 - Bachelor - Policeman of 28 Upper High Street - son of James Walter Cornwall (Deceased) - Rigger to Beatrice Guthrie - 20 - Spinster of 28 Upper High Street - daughter of James Guthrie (Dec) - Joiner. After Banns by H W Watson
Witnesses Joseph Odinrode? and Emma Clarke - All signed the register

If you PM me with your e-mail I have a photo of the entry.

Eileen

James Guthrie who lived with Isabella in Monk Street, died in 1949 and was buried with his mother and sister Janet Lester in Anfield cemetry. To my knowledge he never married, but would be interested to know differently.

His mother and father both came from Kirkudbrightshire to settle in Liverpool. Isabella was a Henry - Her brother was a Thomas Henry who set up what appears to be a quite successful tea business.