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Hi I am trying to find Mary Bowden born 1827 in Ireland and also her daugher Mary Bowden born 1854 in Liverpool in the 1861 census and any of the Bowden men....

I have Mother Mary on the 1851 living with:

John Bowden b 1818 Ireland
Mary Bowen b 1827 Ireland
James Bowden b 1847 Liverpool
John Bowden b 1850 Liverpool

and on the 1871 I have:

Mary Bowden b 1829 Ireland
Mary Bowden b 1854 Liverpool
Living at 30 College Lane occ Eating House Keeper.

Can anyone help me please?

Victoria

Hi

No Mary jnr

1861 indexed as Bowder 16 Lancelots ?Way

Mary Bowden widow 32 eating house keeper b Dublin
John 11 b Liverpool
Thomas 8 b Liverpool
Margaret Rogers 15 b Dublin - servant
RG9; Piece: 2668; Folio: 20; Page: 34;

Hi Carole!!!

What a star you are!!! Thanks so so much!

I have been looking for ages!!! No Mary Jnr though?? She would only have been about 7 years old

V x

Hi

Mary is living next door to her sister Alice Lockwood! Cant believe I didn't see her!!

Victoria

Hi

I am a bit dubious about "Mary"

Looking at the 1871 image - she is May - not Mary and I wonder if the enumerator has made an error and assumed she is Bowden

1871

Margaret Chance head 35 married seamans wife b Ireland
Mary Bowden 42 married eating house keeper b Ireland
May (dittoed) Bowden dtr 17 b Liverpool

Hi

No - Mary was Bowden as she married Robert Lowe

1881 census - all b Liverpool except Mary snr

Robert Lowe 29
Mary Lowe 27
Mary Ann Lowe 6
Alice Lowe 4
Mary Bowden 55 mother in law b Ireland housekeeper
Joseph Percival 20 visitor
RG11; Piece: 3613; Folio: 37; Page: 16

Hi Carole

This is what is also confusing me??? How did he end up in the USA???

I found this when I googled James C Bowden:

BO WHEN James C, Minneapolis.
Res 395U Portland av, office 633 Se-
curity Bank bldg. Lumberman. Born
Feb 9, 1847 in Liverpool England,
son of John and Mary (Eustace)
Bowden. Married twice: in 1876 to
Susan R Douglas; and in 1890 to
Carrie I Winans. Educated in com-
mon schools Liverpool. Moved to
Rockford 111 1858; served in 65th
111 Inf 1862-65; from 1865-67 farmed
and attended school at Rockford 111;
moved to Wis and engaged in lum-
ber business 1867-87; in lumber
business as pres of Bowden, Murray
Lumber Co St Paul 1887-90; mem-
ber of Fox, Wisdom Lumber Co saw-
mills near Duluth 1890-97; moved
to Minneapolis 1897 and has been
engaged in lumber business to date.
Member Masonic fraternity.

Victoria

Hi

John Bowden & Mary Eustace married in Liverpool in March qtr 1846

Is it definitely the same couple on the 1851 census with son James aged 4?

There is no birth for a James C Bowden but there is one for a James Bowden

Reading that report above - it suggests that James was only 11 when he entered the USA and continued his schooling there. My impression is that the family emigrated - not just James

It's 2 different James Bowden's and whoever wrote that piece has got their wires crossed

This is the 1880 US census for Wisconsin

Jas. C. BOWDEN 33 b IL Lumberman parents b ENG
Susan R. BOWDEN 27 b WI Keeping House parents b ME
Clyde BOWDEN Son 3 b WI ME WI
Wm. DOUGLASS FatherL W 70 b ME Lumberman father b SCO mother b ENG

Thanks Carole

That really confused me!!

Just wonder where James born 1847 and Mary born 1854 where in the 1861 census????


V x

Hi

Mary is a mystery - always assuming that they are the right Bowden family

2 possible deaths for James

Deaths Dec 1853

Bowden James West Derby 8b 2_1

Deaths Mar 1861

Bowden James West Derby 8b 275

or this 1871 entry for Runcorn

James Bowden 23 b Liverpool
Mary 24 b Northwich
Eliza A 3 months b Runcorn
RG10; Piece: 3691; Folio: 95; Page: 8