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Florence and Alfred James Kelly - Directory look ups please

Posted: 23 Mar 2009 22:18
by m.downey
Am looking for any information on the following two people they are brother and sister Florence and Alfred James Kelly


Florence KELLY

1-Florence KELLY b. 28 Sep 1904, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, d. After 1950

+William George OWEN b. 26 Mar 1905, West Derby, Lancashire, England, d. After 1930, m. 18 Dec 1926, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England, par.

Children:

2-Ronald George OWEN b. 3 Jan 1928, Birkenhead, Lancashire, England

2-Kenneth Cedric OWEN b. 1 Feb 1931, Birkenhead, Lancashire, England



Marriage Florence KELLY: William married Florence Kelly in the Parish Church of St. Peter, Birkenhead on the 18th of December 1926. William was age 21, residing at 31 Cottage Street and the son of William George Owen a farmer labourer. Florence was age 22, a spinster living on Price Street. Her father, Alfred James Kelly, a dock labourer was listed as deceased. The marriage was conducted before Thomas John Owen and Margaret possibly Morris.


Descendants of Alfred James KELLY


1-Alfred James KELLY b. 9 Dec 1905, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, d. After 1950

+Dorothy Emma EDWARDS b. Abt 1905, m. 4 Apr 1926, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, par. Jesse EDWARDS and Unknown

2-Norman KELLY b. 25 Mar 1928

2-Dorothy KELLY b. 7 Oct 1929, Toxteth Park North, Liverpool, Lancashire, England


The Alfred James Kelly lived at the following addresses. The address 8 Smollelt St. appears to be one of the wrong Alfred Kelly.
1926 74 Hill Street (From Marriage certificate)

1928 70 Solay Street, Toxteth Park Central (From Birth record of Son - Norman)

1929 20 Peel Street (From birth certificate of daughter - Dorothy Kelly)

1929 20 Peel Street (Voters lists - Alfred James Kelly and Dorothy Emma Kelly)

1956 8 Smollelt Street, Edge Hill (From possible death certificate - Alfred Kelly- Wrong Family)


Marriage info: Dorothy (a.k.a possibly Dolly) Emma Edwards, age 21, was married to Alfred J. Kelly on the 4th of April 1926 at St. Matthews Church Toxteth Park Liverpool. She was the daughter of Jesse Edwards a labourer. Her address in 1926 was 74 Hill Street Liverpool. Witnesses were William Leonard Edwards and Edith May Griffitts.

The Alfred James that is missing is a uncle (B: 1905) and the brother of Florence. Their father is , Alfred James born 1873. 1905) . We have marriage info etc and know of two sons of Florence. Last know dates connected to Florence is in the early 1930s. He was married and I have info on that. I was told that he lived up till sometimes in the 1950s.

Both these people seem to have vanished from the records after their marriages, searches for their deaths or life after marriage have always proved successful.

Posted: 24 Mar 2009 11:20
by MaryA
Assuming that you are looking for more recent information I would suggest you post a request on the Liverpool Echo Old Pals messageboard - www.icliverpool.co.uk as a first stage

Posted: 24 Mar 2009 21:29
by m.downey
Thanks Mary
At the very least would like to find out the place and date of their deaths. To make a contact with their families would be great...
Best wishes
md

Posted: 25 Mar 2009 08:39
by Tina
Hi m.d
I'm sure Jim & Colette have Directories after 1938 in which I've found nothing.
Perhaps send them a pm with details?
I'm sure Mary will advise what is best.
Perhaps a new post to grab their attention?

Good luck

Tina

Posted: 25 Mar 2009 10:33
by MaryA
I've amended the heading of this one to show that you want directory look ups. If they don't spot it, perhaps a pm will do the trick.

Posted: 25 Mar 2009 11:19
by Tina
Thank You Mary...
You are a gem.

Tina oxo

Posted: 25 Mar 2009 19:20
by m.downey
Hi Mary,
Have sent a pm to Collette, ? which Jim should I also pm
Thanks for changing heading and advice given.
Md

Owen/Kelly

Posted: 25 Mar 2009 20:21
by colette
Hi hun i only have a 1962

Mrs K Kelly 8 Smollett St

No Alfred James listed...

Ronald Owen.....

Ronald Owen 13 Raby Drive

Ronald Owen 19 Caldy Rd Lpool 9

Ronald Owen 32 Cambridge Rd

Ronald Owen 39 Clarendon Rd

Ronald Owen 26 Gregory Way

William G Owen.....

William G Owen 24 Blackburne Drive Lpool 25

William G Owen 33 Endbutt Lane Lpool 23

William George Owen 7 Kershaw Ave Lpool 23

No Kenneth Cedric Owen..


Regards Colette

Posted: 25 Mar 2009 20:30
by m.downey
Hi Collette,
Smollett Street keeps recurring but we think is not the right Kelly family.
Is there anything for Ronald George Owen?
What information do the directories give? sorry for being such an amateur !
md

Owen/Kelly

Posted: 25 Mar 2009 20:52
by colette
Hi sorry put Ronald as a Kelly i have changed it to Owen now...

The directory for 1962 does not give an occupation it stopped doing this in 1950's.. it only lists the head of house and address.. like a phone book of today..

The two names are so common its gonna be hard for you

Regards

Owen/Kelly

Posted: 25 Mar 2009 21:21
by colette
Hi

This could be Ronald Owens marriage


Everton St Benedict 1951 Ronald G Owen -Margaret Moore

And this be Kenneth Owen's marriage

Speke All Saints 1952 Kenneth Owen - Dorothy Crompton

Posted: 26 Mar 2009 17:50
by m.downey
Thanks, will check these out with my 'cousin' in Canada who is researching them.Could be the very info we are looking for.
Have a good day
Md

Posted: 27 Mar 2009 08:27
by Tina
Hi m.d
oversight from me
it's Jimraf that has 1949 Directory.

Warmies
Tina

Posted: 27 Mar 2009 19:11
by m.downey
Tina,
Give me a clue who is Jimraf?
Warmies from cool St. Helens
md

Posted: 27 Mar 2009 19:22
by MaryA
This is his profile with a button link to send him a pm.

http://liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/phpBB ... ile&u=1576

Posted: 27 Mar 2009 19:54
by m.downey
Cheers!
md

Posted: 28 Mar 2009 10:02
by Tina
Thank you Mary
I "assumed" md would go to search to find him :wink:

Tina

Posted: 28 Mar 2009 10:08
by MaryA
You know the old saying about "assume" .... :lol: :lol:

Posted: 28 Mar 2009 10:38
by Tina
Yes Mum...

Tina :wink: