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Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 12:06
by Trix77
Hello everyone
I'm wondering if someone would be kind enough to help me out with emigration records. I am researching an ancestor Helen Garland born 4.10.1878 West Derby. I know that she emigrated to Canada with her two year old daughter Dorothy (can't find her birth record). She went on to place Dorothy in an orphanage in Canada and then married a Guy Lindley Austin. I can see that there are travel records, but my ancestry doesn't have the level of membership needed. If anyone could help me out with info on this I'd be really grateful. I'd love to know who she travelled there with.
Many thanks
Trix
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 12:52
by retiringtype
What year was Dorothy born ?
Do you have an approximate date for their emigration?
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 12:56
by Bertieone
Was she a trained nurse?
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:01
by Bertieone
Trained Nurse,
Name:
Helen Garland
Gender:
Female
Arrival Age:
28
Birth Year:
abt 1879
Departure Port:
Liverpool, England
Arrival Date:
18 Jul 1907
Arrival Port:
Quebec, Canada
Vessel:
Empress of Britain
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:03
by Trix77
I have been told by a descendant of theirs that Dorothy was born 1905 in London, I can't find this record.
I don't know whether Helen was a nurse. She is a general servant domestic age 22
many thanks
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:04
by Trix77
thank you Bertieone, that is really interesting. I know she settled in British Columbia.
Was Dorothy with her on that record?
many thanks!!
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:06
by retiringtype
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:07
by Trix77
I thought she would have sailed to Vancouver?
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:09
by Bertieone
The 1921 census has Dorothy aged 15, year of arrival not known.
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:16
by Trix77
Brilliant thank you retiringtype, that fills in a few blanks for me! Great!
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:18
by Trix77
Berieone 1921 census? There is a Canadian 1921 census? wow. Does it say where she was?
It is a sad story
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:21
by Trix77
The South Sheilds Dorothy appears on future census records, so this isn't her
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:32
by Bertieone
All the children on the page are under 16, some as young as 2/3
Dorothy Garland
Gender:
Female
Marital status:
Single
Age:
15
Birth Year:
abt 1906
Birth Place:
England
Relation to Head of House:
Inmate
Father Birth Place:
England
Mother Birth Place:
England
Racial or Tribal Origin:
English
Province or Territory:
British Columbia
District:
Vancouver
District Number:
13
Sub-District:
Ward 7
Sub-District Number:
48
City, Town or Village:
Vancouver
Street or Township:
26 50 Wall St
Municipality:
Ward 7
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 13:44
by Trix77
Thank you very much indeed for that Bertieone. Very sad, she spent her whole childhood there
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 14:25
by Bertieone
Trix,
Was Helen's parents, Frederick William and Mary?
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 14:50
by Bertieone
Bertieone wrote: ↑13 Sep 2019 14:25
Trix,
Was Helen's parents, Frederick William and Mary?
I'll assume that it is, if not, nothing lost.
I thought I'd look for a female Garland born 1905/1906 without a mothers maiden name (GRO)
If your not aware, the GRO don't publish an unmarried mothers name on their site when a child is registered.
Veronica Garland, 1905 West Derby. no mmn recorded.
The baptism below is Veronica, mother Helen Garland, Godmother, Maria (Mary) Garland, note the address, 21 Sandstone Rd.
1910 Electoral Register, 21 Sandstone Rd, Frederick William Garland.
1910, Veronica Garland went to Canada, aged 4 and a half
Name:
Veronica Garland
Gender:
Female
Arrival Age:
4
Birth Year:
abt 1906
Departure Port:
Liverpool, England
Arrival Date:
4 Aug 1910
Arrival Port:
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Vessel:
Empress of Ireland
Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 16:45
by Bertieone
same birthdate as Veronica.

Re: Emmigration
Posted: 13 Sep 2019 17:58
by Trix77
Wow Bertieone
An exceptional bit of research there, I am in awe.
Fantastic thank you!! That explains why I couldn't find Dorothy!!
Well done!