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Swinbank family
Posted: 14 Aug 2018 12:29
by Redflag3+
Hi all,
I'm interested in finding out more about a great grandfather of mine : Thomas Swinbank , born in Hawkswick North Yorkshire but resident in 64 Albion Street,Liverpool in the 1881 census along with mother Isabella and rest of family . I believe they were involved in cattle droving originally from the Dent /Sedburgh N Yorks area over to Liverpool and then down the welsh borders . He was 19 on the 1881 census and his occupation was cowman . I believe from a contact sometime ago , though now lost touch with , that he may be buried in Anfield cemetery in Liverpool. He died I think in 1891 possibly December . I was wondering if any of your members might be able to help with my search . I live in Ulverston in Cumbria but am visiting Liverpool in September .
Mike Owen
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 14 Aug 2018 12:57
by Bertieone
Hi and welcome,
Anfield Cemetery,
Buried, Jan 2, 1892.
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 14 Aug 2018 13:05
by Bertieone
1891 census,
Transcription Error,
64 Albion St
Isabell Greenbank 54
Christopher Greenbank 33
Jane Greenbank 31
Thomas Greenbank 29
Alice Greenbank 25
Richard Greenbank 18
RG12, P2953, F77 P10
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/ ... PUBJs=true
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 09:15
by Redflag3+
Thanks for that and the info about the transcribing error . Thomas died a few months before my grandfather ( also Thomas ) was born . His mother originally Sarah Parry died young too ..in 1897 I think . Don't suppose you can suggest any further ways of finding out more about this family? Thanks for your help .
Mike Owen
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 09:50
by MaryA
You might be interested in reading a book by Dave Joy about Cowkeepers of Liverpool. Could give you a bit of background.
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 10:48
by Redflag3+
Thanks
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 11:02
by Bertieone
To avoid duplicating information you may already have, is there anything in particular we may be able to help with?
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 11:25
by Redflag3+
Just got book via kindle .. looks v interesting . Thanks again .
Thomas' father was Septimus who also died in Liverpool (1875) and is prob also buried in Anfield .There are probably other relatives buried there . How do you access the burial records ? Do you think it will be relatively straightforward to find the graves in Anfield when I visit ?
Thanks for all your help . I guess I'm mainly trying to fill out my picture of the family's life in Liverpool . Though I'm particularly interested in my great grandfather's relationship with Sarah Parry who he met in Hereford and also why they both died so young .
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 11:48
by Bertieone
https://www.lswlfhs.org.uk/phpBB3/viewt ... 43&t=15479
You will probably have to register to view images, it's not IE friendly, you will need a different browser if you are using IE.
The death certificates will reveal how they died.
Sorry can't comment on Anfield Cemetery, others will advise.
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 15:07
by Blue70
As Bert said use Family Search for images from Anfield Cemetery Burial Registers. If you're not familiar with Family Search or the recent changes you now have to be registered and signed in to view records. It's free to register and free to use. Be sure to use a compatible browser such as Firefox or Google Chrome. Look out for the camera icon that indicates that records are available to view. Public graves (single interments) do not have gravestone markers so you are likely to see a grassed area in the vicinity of those graves and you may only have a rough idea of the location of those burials. Purchased graves (private or family plots) may have a gravestone marker you will have a better chance of locating such a grave even if there is no gravestone. A lot of gravestones have a section number and grave number on the reverse side these can be used to count along gravestones and unmarked spaces. There was an excellent gravestone transcription site on Rootsweb for Anfield Cemetery but this has been unavailable to access for some time now.
Anfield Cemetery Burial Registers
https://www.familysearch.org/search/cat ... %20Library
Anfield Cemetery Order Books
https://www.familysearch.org/search/cat ... %20Library
This transcription website is useful in finding some Anfield Cemetery burials by year and name:-
http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/An ... Index.html
Here is a plan of the cemetery:-
http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/An ... metery.jpg
Blue
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 16:33
by Redflag3+
Thanks very much
Mike
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 25 Aug 2018 11:36
by Redflag3+
Bertieone wrote: ↑14 Aug 2018 12:57
Hi and welcome,
Anfield Cemetery,
Buried, Jan 2, 1892.
For some reason only just noticed the image you sent regarding Thomas Swinbanks burial .Thanks . Can you tell me where you found this and whether there might be grave I could visit .
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 25 Aug 2018 12:43
by Blue70
Blue70 wrote: ↑15 Aug 2018 15:07
As Bert said use Family Search for images from Anfield Cemetery Burial Registers. If you're not familiar with Family Search or the recent changes you now have to be registered and signed in to view records. It's free to register and free to use. Be sure to use a compatible browser such as Firefox or Google Chrome. Look out for the camera icon that indicates that records are available to view. Public graves (single interments) do not have gravestone markers so you are likely to see a grassed area in the vicinity of those graves and you may only have a rough idea of the location of those burials. Purchased graves (private or family plots) may have a gravestone marker you will have a better chance of locating such a grave even if there is no gravestone. A lot of gravestones have a section number and grave number on the reverse side these can be used to count along gravestones and unmarked spaces. There was an excellent gravestone transcription site on Rootsweb for Anfield Cemetery but this has been unavailable to access for some time now.
Anfield Cemetery Burial Registers
https://www.familysearch.org/search/cat ... %20Library
Anfield Cemetery Order Books
https://www.familysearch.org/search/cat ... %20Library
This transcription website is useful in finding some Anfield Cemetery burials by year and name:-
http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/An ... Index.html
Here is a plan of the cemetery:-
http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/An ... metery.jpg
Blue
The burial register is on Family Search see above information.
You can view the full burial entry, when registered and signed in, on this direct link to the image:-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=397178
Blue
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 25 Aug 2018 14:59
by MaryA
Section 10, Grave 284 doesn't sound like a General grave to me, there were no others on the page, so I would think it was a private/purchased grave. We are very grateful to Blue for these links to the Familysearch site as the Burial Registers are currently offsite from the Record Office, being scanned by Ancestry and won't be back until later in October.
There are many headstones transcribed, including a number of Swinbanks, however it doesn't look as if yours is there.
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ormandy/ ... ldc10.html
and here is a plan of the cemetery
http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/An ... metery.jpg
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 26 Aug 2018 10:19
by Redflag3+
Thanks v much . V helpful . Do you think there might be an obituary somewhere ? How easy is to view local press of the period ?
Re: Swinbank family
Posted: 26 Aug 2018 10:32
by Redflag3+
Thanks again .. just found reference to Swinbank graves including Thomas and father Septimus etc on the rootsweb link you sent me !
