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Hi all I have over the years added to my tree and have learned a lot about my family history but there is always a lot to learn.
Elizabeth Easton is a bit of a puzzle for me although I think I have tracked her down as I
found a birth record in Clitheroe lancs mother Hayes/ Hinigham
ref CL/11/75 preston district Hinigham could be mistranscribed? Spellings etc.
ref 8e 225 sep quarter freebmd 1855 mothers surname showing as Hayes on GRO site
Higham/Hegham ?
I have her mother as Margaret Easton born Ireland c1812 Obviously Easton is probably her married name?
found her death record Lanchester district age 76 as Easton not Heston as mistranscribed
Elizabeth Easton c1855 married Matthew Wick c1854 in st Marys Hexham Northumberland in 1877
I do have more info on the Wick family and they go back to Norfolk as do a lot of my Ancestry.
They ended up in North East England along with most of my family.
I also have other Lancashire history though with Poulson family in Liverpool of which is for another post maybe.
I really would like to know if I could find any of Elizabeth Eastons family members if she had any and of course her mothers family in Ireland.
I also have other Irish links as I expect many have.
I have seen a few Hays posts and Hughes etc which lead me here.
Thanks for any help
Moira

Hi and welcome to the forum.

Could you please give details from any of the censuses that lead you to the results you have suggested as we need a trail to follow rather than just a guess at a birth and place.

There is a tree for this family on Ancestry, is it yours?

Do you have Matthew and Elizabeth's marriage certificate? If not I would suggest you need to get it to see her father's name.

The birth of an Elizabeth Easton with mother's maiden name maiden name Hayes in 1855 would seem to probably the one that would suit the 1871 and 1881 census entries where Elizabeth's place of birth is given as Clitheroe however if you have evidence of both her father's and mother's names you will be able to prove it.

Hi I am not a great fan of certificates although I do understand the need for these. Unfortunately they did not always tell the truth as I have found out in the past and the cost to me although not much I don't have much to spend so hoping someone may have already got info later that leads them to my tree.
It may give the fathers name it may be correct so you are right I should buy it and will.
The tree is probably mine as I do have one on Ancestry not all info is correct or up to date sorry about that.
I have a tree on Genes Reunited that I keep all my info which is something I look back on a lot and now I have added more in other trees too(A friend and I did a lot of research mainly Norfolk as she lives near Norwich) small ones on her Ancestry and not mine. We have linked up in general in places and I have a lot of references due to our research.
Nothing in this place in my tree though.
Coming forward to Matthew Wick and Elizabeth Eastons child Sarah Ann Wick c1874 born Shotley Bridge I can't find a marriage for them although I have found baps.
I actually can't find my Nans birth record with Sarah Ann Wick as mother although I have all other siblings and I am in touch with my Mums cousin although he is over 90 years old so I know the family is correct.
I haven't done my tree in the correct way and I will admit to that but to be honest if there is no birth registration for my Nan daughter of William A Dobson c1866 and Sarah Ann Wick c1874 then I am stuffed right from the start although everything I have added adds up in my tree.
I have been researching for about 10 years and I do believe most of my tree is correct with some things in places that are incorrect most of those I know about.
Also no marriage for William A Dobson and Sarah Ann Wick.
My Nans sister Sarah seems to be missing from the birth registrations too I am stumped at that point but the rest of the siblings are there. Edith c1901 and Sarah c1905 are in census records with the family they are in the middle of the births in the family if they were on the end would make sense that they may not belong to Sarah.
The middle name for William Dobson is Asquith/Askwith which is a name handed down so that did help with the Dobsons. My Nans cousin was son of Matthew Dobson c1897 I am sure I have seen his birth certificate just had a lot of computer failiures in the 10 years of research and didn't save stuff like I should have.
Matthews son is alive and in touch daily.
Thanks for any info at all although I have seen a few census records in the past that look correct and as you say Cltheroe is on 2 of them as birth place for Elizabeth.
I apologise again for the vagueness if thats the correct word for my findings.
I do have my Nan Edith Dobsons marriage and death cetificate.
I have just ordered email pdf of Elizabeth Eastons birth record in Clitheroe so hoping it helps here.
It is only £6 and if I think it's correct which I do then it is what I should do next.
I have a feeling that Margaret Easton may have been married more than once hence those 2 extra names Hayes Hays and Hinigham however they are spelt.
The Irish are never easy to find if she is indeed Irish.
Mt Nan Edith Dobson was said to be born 20th August 1901 on her Death Certificate she died as Edith McDonald in Newcastle upon tyne Fenham area. Death date 11th Oct 1973 Think that is correct as just taken from my notes. The McDonald name was previously McDonnell from Ireland as far as I have found going back.
Just in case it matters I already I think have a Jane Hay in my tree c 1913 who married Thomas Cann c1908 I have her father as Alexander Hay c1876 and mother as Jane Wightman c1876 These are only educated guesses.
Thomas Cann was son of Walter Cann c1872 who was my Great Grandads brother.
Cann being my birth name.
Thomas and Jane both died in Newcastle upon Tyne 1992 and 1982.
I did once go to my Nans cemetery in Elswick area of Newcastle and trawled it looking for her grave only to find out it was unmarked. In the mean time I did find other graves and one was Dobson of which I sent a photo to the Descendants of as I traced them through Genes reunited. Not sure I found a connection to mine.
I do think that this Thomas Cann and Jane may well have been a Cann grave I photographed too in the same cemetery. Thought I would have added this in my notes so I may be wrong will need to have another look.
Yes it was these that I photographed the grave years before I found out exactly who I had photographed. I have added the photo to my Ancestry tree on Genes.
Interesting that they were in the same crematory as my Nan Edith McDonald nee Dobson.

One thing that has become easier over recent years is research in Ireland, you may wish to check out some of the links on this post, especially down the page where there is a long list that we usually print out to give to those who come to our Help Desk.
https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... 14&t=13912

Thank you I have found that research has become easier as you rightly say and I have recently found my Grandads birth and death and some of his extended family through more research recently.
It didn't help with name changes etc that I have found in a few places in my tree they really didn't want to be found easily.

Hi I have Elizabeth Eastons 1855 birth certificate and she did have a father called Thomas so I was right with that although I was not sure.
Interesting that he was a travelling Musician.
I would add the certificate when I work out how to.
Do I have to have it on an account like Photobucket if they are still going or can I add from my comp?
I do know I need her marriage certificate also to make sure all is correct.
I was awaiting some possible certificates from another relative so just have held back a bit in case she already has them. Her mother Margaret was late Hinigham formerly Hayes.
Which one is her maiden name?
I am not sure how that works.
Elizabeth was born in Lowergate Clitheroe .

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According to my uncle's birth certificate the order of names is

First name and surname of marriage
LATE previous married name
FORMERLY maiden name.

Thank you I shall try and post the certificate



Also am I in the right place for posting as in area Don't know Liverpool or surrounding areas at all so just posted this where I thought may be ok ?

Strictly speaking it's outside our Society area of the West Derby Hundred, but that won't put our crew off helping you if they are able.

Thank you I really struggle with areas and appreciate any help.
I don't subscribe as money very tight so just do my best so I have learned to work through my tree without too much cost over the years.
I subscribe now and again when there are offers on and then try and catch up and save what I can.
I do have other Lancashire surnames I think some in West Derby.

womble99 wrote: I do have other Lancashire surnames I think some in West Derby.

Liverpool is in Lancashire but in the south west of the county, as is the registration district and township/village of West Derby.