Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Good day all

My ancestors per subject box lived in Liverpool. 1841 Census captain at sea (William Hughes), wife Mary Ann under the name Hughs and children living 29 Grafton Street Toxteth with her parents William and Elizabeth Northcott. By 1851 Mary is a widow age 38 living 71 Rathbone Street Toxteth. Shopkeeper. She may be working for Blackaller, a ships chandler. Through Mary applying for financial aid after her husbands death, l was able to find a ton of information on this family via the Trinity House Petition.
This petition was of great help as the name Hughes in Liverpool made it impossible to move backwards. It included all of the current living childrens baptismal certificates, William and Mary's marriage and Mary Anne's baptismal certificate 6 Oct 1813 Scotforth Lancaster Lancashire stating her mother Betsy Mayers, father William Northcott. The main ships William was first mate or captain of and petition letters from sponsors.
William's death certificate via his doctor on 17 Jan 1849 was also included. The writing is hard to decipher but it looks like he died of either aneurysm of aorta or concussion of cortex.

William Hughes age 37 died 17Jan1849 at 3 Saint James Street Liverpool. Can anyone help as to what this place was? William 'left at sea-per petition' around 1847. Was this a shipping warehouse, hospital, medical facility? Would anyone know how l can find where his burial is? I am about to order his death certificate but wonder what more information can be gleaned from it, as l already have the doctors death certificate.

Of the many ships William Hughes was either First Mate or Captain, was the Blackaller. Blackaller also signed the Trinity petition for Mary Anne's financial aid. Other than directory listings, art paintings, has anyone other interesting snippets on Blackaller. I do have William Hughes' ticket number where it states he is born Bangor. Bangor Wales? Ireland? A fellow genealogist also having an ancestor on Blackaller sent a copy of the Blackaller ships manifest around 1837 and it states William born Liverpool. This may be that he lived here for so long that it was presumed his birth town.

Is anyone related to this family. I am willing to share my finds. My lineage is Mary Ann's daughter Elizabeth Hughes born 1839 Liverpool, her daughter Helena Fulton 1879 Birkenhead Cheshire, her son William Lloyd born 1911 Birkenhead Cheshire.

I am unable to find out what Mary Anne's future held for her. Did she remarry or die. Her birth last name is Northcott 1813. Her middle name Mayers after her mothers maiden name. Her first marriage in 1834 last name Hughes. So am putting it out there that if she re married, is anyone related?

Many years ago l made a new found contact with a distant cousin in New Zealand. He sent me a painting on goatskin c1842 of our Captain Hughes, amongst other exciting history. My lineage stayed Liverpool/Birkenhead and were bombed out WW2 with nothing surviving. His lineage emigrated and have precious keepsakes that he shared. A very exciting find indeed.

This first post is rather long winded but hoping someone out there can shed more light.

Cheers, Kira

Hi Kira and welcome,

Image from the 1843 Liverpool directory, 1851 census has Joseph M'cartin & family, 3 St James St, Shopkeeper.

There's this burial, St James cemetery.

Sands St South?,

William Hughes, buried 21 Jan, 1849, aged 38.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=290591

It appears to be in the area of Rathbone St
http://www.liverpool-city-group.com/str ... 901/f4.htm

Hi and welcome to the forum. What a treasury of documents you have found.

To add to Bert's find on the 1843 directory, mine also has Joseph McCartin as a grocer and provision dealer, so I would imagine William would be lodging there when not at sea.

If you use the GRO website you will find that the ages at death are given even in the early years. These might be worth investigating.

HUGHES, MARY ANN Age 41
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 194

HUGHES, MARY ANN Age 42
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 21

HUGHES, MARY ANN Age 49
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 196

I didn't see these listed on the Toxteth Park Cemetery site so perhaps if one of them is her she may have been buried with William in St James. You could browse through the images in the link that Bert has given to see if this gives a result.

Thank you Bert and MaryA

Gosh, l used to volunteer transcribing with Familysearch and never checked recently to their images.
I took time off genealogy as l was getting nowhere, having done this addiction for a good 20 years or so!!! Then last night l 'spoke' to William's portrait and told him that he has to come up with new finds and voila!

I was not getting anywhere on address searches in various ways, so well done helping me in this area.!!

As l still am unable to visit the library right now, is someone able to see who was living at Sands Street South in 1851? This couple had a boy John in 1847 at 143 Bedford Street Toxteth, then Mary Ann had a child 2 months after the death of William her husband at 71 Rathbone Street. How horrid to have 6 young children to care for alone. This Sands Street South address is interesting, as stated on a possible burial record of 'my' William Hughes 21Jan1849 age 38. Looks very likely.

Tried familysearch with no luck on Sands Street South.

Kind regards and many thanks for taking time to help me.

William Hughes, 10 Sand Street, in McCorquodale Directory 1848

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=724489


Blue

St. James Street in McCorquodale Directory 1848

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=724489


Blue

1851 census,

10 Sand St,
John & Ellen Wainwright

Thank you Blue70 and Bert

For some reason after logging on to familysearch.org, images came up with a prompt to go to findmypast. So my screen was blank. By using the links on this page, l was able to look at them.
Will need to fathom out the issue here.

I may have a couple too many common William Hughes' here but that's how it is.
My William may have been working at 3 St James Street and have a heavy object fall on him or he had a brain aneurysm whilst working or visiting this address. We spent so long looking for him, thinking he was lost at sea in some capacity, being a Sea Captain. The Trinity petition was an exciting find.

However, as l have no evidence of any brothers or sisters to William and MaryAnn, these addresses may be a clue plus someone reading this topic will see a common interest.

Kind regards and thanks for taking the time to help

Some images on Family Search like the Liverpool directories and cemeteries are image only, not findable with the search, direct links to particular collections are here, some records can only be viewed by signing in to Family Search:-

https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... m.php?f=43


Blue