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Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 16:10
by davemassie
My great-grandfather William Nassau Walters died in 1937,in Holywell, Flintshire. His place of death was a big surprise ( I was expecting it to be Portsmouth). Given William's unique name though, it must be him.

The informant on his death certificate was one Samuel Edmund Newby Walters, son, of 53 Banner St, Liverpool. He is a complete mystery to me.

In the 1939 register, Samuel was still at number 53, married, living with Eva Walters, married, and one redacted member of the household. He was a grocer's branch manager. Samuel was born 2 Sep 1890, and Eva 26 Oct 1901.

I cannot find a birth, marriage, death or census entry for either Samuel or Eva. (I've also looked at 'Evangeline' and 'Evelyn'). Given the date of his birth, it will have been illegitimate, so I'm guessing that his third name 'Newby' might well be a clue as to his mother.

Could some kind soul please look him up in any street directory, electoral roll or similar around the 1930s please? I need to find anything about Samuel and Eva that might lead to me finding him.

Re: Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 16:35
by Bertieone
Hi and welcome,

His name was, Watters

Marriage
Prest, Eva, Liverpool 8b 256
Watters Samuel E N, Liverpool S. 8b 256

Re: Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 16:38
by Bertieone
Samuel Edmund Newby Watters
Death Date:
9 Apr 1965
Death Place:
Liverpool, England
Probate Date:
21 May 1965
Registry:
Liverpool, England

Re: Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 16:40
by Bertieone
Eva Watters
Death Age:
76
Birth Date:
26 Oct 1901
Registration Date:
Jun 1978
Registration district:
Wrexham
Inferred County:
Clwyd
Volume:
24
Page:
1107

Re: Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 16:44
by Bertieone
Lancs BMD,

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1929

WATTERS Samuel E, PREST Eva ,Wavertree, Holy Trinity Liverpool

Re: Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 17:34
by Bertieone
Family, 1911.

William Watters 50
Mary Watters 47
Samuel Watters 20
Thomas Watters 17
Isabel Watters 4

13 Ash Grove, Liverpool
RG14 P22657

Re: Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 18:36
by MaryA
Hi and welcome to the forum.

It looks like Bert has given you a great start to work from.

Re: Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 19:16
by davemassie
Great info, many thanks. I was tearing my hair out... I should have thought of a surname change. His great-grandfather was born Waters, but all descendants called themselves Walters. So now I have a third surname spelling...

Re: Samuel Edmund Newby Walters

Posted: 09 Sep 2017 19:54
by Bertieone
William Nassau Watters
Mary Chase,
16 July 1889, Dublin North,
Fathers, Samuel Watters, Newby Chase,

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/index. ... Itemid=117