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I am searching for my Great Grandmother Mary Ann Edwards born circa 1867 Liverpool who married John Bradney Johnson in 1887.(Have marriage certificate and census records after her marriage). Her father was Thomas Edwards a Mariner. On one of the censuses she has her sister Sarah Jane b. circa 1874 at Liverpool living with her. Sarah’s baptism states her mother’s name as Ruth. There is also another sister Ruth born circa 1877 at Liverpool. Can’t find out any more about Mary Ann prior to her marriage, don’t know who her mother is. Would be grateful for any help. Also is there a record of Mariners that I could search to get a bit more information about Thomas Edwards. Did they have a seamans books with information about home and family. Have had DNA done which states that I am 53% Irish. To date have found no Irish ancestors hoping Mary Anns line has the Irish connection. Thanks for any help provided.

Hi Sue and welcome,

Nothing certain, just see where it goes,

Ruth Edwards born 1877, Sept Qtr, Liverpool, mothers maiden name, Johnson.

Married in Liverpool, 1859,
Thomas Edwards/Ruth Johnson
Thomas is recorded as a Butcher. Marriage cert on Anc.

Baptism, St Peter's 1877

Ruth Edwards
Parents, Thomas & Ruth Edwards
Burlington St,
Thomas recorded as, Mariner.

Above marriage,



Thomas Edwards, Butcher, Stanhope St
Birth Year:
abt 1832
Age:
27
Marriage Date:
4 Jul 1859
Parish:
Liverpool, St John
Spouse's Name:
Ruth Johnson, Burlington St
Father's name:
William Edwards, Farmer
Spouse Father's Name:
James Johnson, Steward.

1861
RG9 P2652 F59 P15
Burlington Street,

James Johnson 65
Jane Johnson 49
Ruth Edwards 19, Bn Ireland
Charles Cornwall 23
Christena Cornwall 21
Mary Elizabeth 3/12

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/ ... PUBJs=true

Possible?
Ruth Edwards (Johnson) Born, Dublin,
Kirkdale Fever Hospital.
1871, RG10; Piece: 3829; Folio: 89; Page: 1;
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... h=17058798

Liverpool Advertiser, 1870.

I think they got that mixed up. At the start they say Ruth Edwards was assaulted, at the end they say Livingston was struck on the eye. Oh dear !! Confused now.

Ruth Edwards, Bn, 1877

1881
RG11 P3600 F13 P24
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... ource=6598

Ruth Edwards with same family and father Thomas.

1891
RG12 P2903 F39 P12
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... h=25256394

This could be Sarah Jane living with relatives,
1881, RG11 P3670 F85 P6
195 Breck Rd

William Johnson 43
Hannah Johnson 43
Sarah Edwards 8, Niece,
Jane Jones 20
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... &h=9063498
With Ruth also living with relatives in 1881 suggests mother Ruth can't look after them or has died, she has by 1891, Thomas declares himself a widower.

Possible for Mary Ann, 1881, working as a servant, correct age.
RG 11 P3687 F26 P24
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... &h=9147792

Thanks everyone will look closely at all replies.